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You Vs NGC 1864 2 Cent Warning Huge Images

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Want to see how you stack up against NGC?
I failed miserably I was of by 1 pt and got the colour wrong.
(I still think I was corrrect and NGC over graded)

I still do not have the hang of taking pictures through slabs. lets face it I still have a lot to learn about photography in general.

Anyway for your grading pleasure.
I just had to have this one simply for the REV.

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Absolutely Amazing!! The toning and condition are excellent! Are those die cracks above STATES? Overall grade MS 64- 65
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Yep they are die cracks that's why I was surprised about the grade
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MS 64 RB?
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One of the nicest ones I've seen in awhile. I'm going to say MS-63 because of the chip on the rim.
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Nice die cracks. MS64RB. That is not a chip but a piece of white plastic from the holder.
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Nice die cracks. MS64RB.


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I say MS64 Red
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64 RB. Love it.
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I'll guess 64 Red. Normally I would say 64 Red Brown, but you said you were off on the color and that NGC overgraded it. Beautiful coin whatever the grade is!
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Based on your comments, my guess is NGC graded it MS65RB and you graded it MS64BN. I don't see anything in the pics that would keep it from being graded as gem though. So I would go MS65BN right now because I don't think there's enough red remaining for it to go red-brown.

Very nice coin any way you slice it!
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bherring1964 you are correct. I am becoming predictable?
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I am becoming predictable?


Not in the least. Based on your comments and the photos, I took a stab at where you and NGC differed.

I agree the coin would be brown if graded today but I bet it had a lot more red in it at the time NGC graded it.

I don't see anything that would knock this coin below gem though. Maybe in hand you're picking out something I can't see to make this beauty a 64.
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Rev
There are two Dings on the wheat ears just to the right of Cents. The design masks them nicely but they are there.
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There are a couple of dings on the top part of the shield. The leaves have some minor scratches.
The T and U of trust are scratched. The arrow heads are missing the sharp relief that I would have expected on a 65
These are more rounded. Combined they make a 64BN for me.
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64BN (although it looks RB to me)
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