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I have included seller pictures of two more 1875 CC Twenty Cent Pieces for your consideration. They are offered by the same seller, but are two different coins. Which would you say is the better of the two, and what might a fair price be? I apologize for the picture quality. They aren't mine; if they were my pictures, they would probably be worse. Thanks in advance. Image:  1250.jpg74.28 KB Image: 1300.jpg54.68 KB |
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 United States
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Pictures are a little blurry, for what I can see they both look AU, with the first one a little better than the second. AU-55 and AU-53.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree the first one is better than the second but I could not put a value on either coin by these pictures
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United States
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The first coin has better details than the second.
AU55
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Valued Member
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Oddly, counter to everyone's assessments, the seller is grading the second one a couple of points higher than the first, and asking for a bit more for the second. I agree with all, thus far, that the first has the nicer detail. Are there any concerns about the first coin's toning on the obverse, given what appears to be a very straight demarcation on the right side?
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Problematic. I like the second one better, in agreement with your comment on the surfaces of the first. The technical grade is lower - consider what that means about the first coin if the dealer wants less for it - but I like the look better. I sure as heck wouldn't be making a buying decision on a $1200-1300 coin (more like $1500+ in a PCGS slab if it's a solid XF45) based on these pics, though. Consider that the value is likely less than $1000 if it's been cleaned. The seller's feedback, although large in number and quality, is occasionally....unenthusiastic. I think he's overstating the grade slightly, but it's tough to call based on such poor photos when you know (far better than I, I'd guess  ) how critical the obverse is to grading a Twenty Cent. I'm also a little worried about the scratches to the left of the base and at 2:30 near the stars. Consider also the exponential rise in value between VF and XF. Lonestar has a nicely-shot PCGS XF40 offered; using that coin as a comparison the second coin you're considering looks pretty strong, likely also XF40, but there are still concerns. I'd enter into a dialogue with the seller, using some of these points, and offer him $1100. You never know. |
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Hmmmm. I was going to offer him less than $1100. This coin, more than all others on which I have done comparisons using the various price guides and auction results, is outrageously high in the PCGS price guide. I would toss that guide completely on this one. I don't see any scratches on the first coin pictured, only on the second. I am assuming that is the one to which you refer. Any idea what might have caused that discoloration on the first coin? If it had been dipped, it seems logically to me, the same sort of line would likely show on the reverse as well.
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Hmmmm. I was going to offer him less than $1100. By all means. The worst he can do is say no. Quote:
Any idea what might have caused that discoloration on the first coin? Could be a number of different things; best guess is it was exposed to toning circumstances while sitting, partially covered, in a place where you really don't want a collectible coin sitting. So, the conclusion is that the color is old (contemporary). However, it's not really dark, as I'd expect such differing color to be, so the strong possibility exists that someone tried to clean it. Hence, the lower price for a stronger-appearing coin. Either way, only the seller's return policy allows me to make a recommendation at all. |
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