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1913 P Barber Half Dollar Thoughts Please

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This is only the 6th barber half I've found in Rome... Some grading thoughts would be appreciated!

Thanks everyone,

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 Posted 05/16/2024  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll grade it at VG.
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 Posted 05/16/2024  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say VG-08.
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Textbook VG-10
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 Posted 05/16/2024  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VG10. Reverse may have an issue.
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 Posted 05/16/2024  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like it. Mid VG for me. That spot of black crud might be reduced or eliminated with acetone.
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Vg cleaned. Decent eye appeal...maybe work on the reverse spot.
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Fyi, this is a key date barber half with only 188,000 minted. I put this as a VG-10 as well...
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It appears lightly cleaned in these images. VG details and probably market-acceptable for a straight-grade.
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I see no evidence of cleaning.
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And a question - how can this be a VG-10 with only 2 letters of Liberty ("LI") clearly visible? Only traces of any other letter. Comments invited.
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Agree with Coinfrog. For me, I need to see 3 Letters in Liberty to reach VG.
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Take a look at the PCGS Photograde VG-10 obverse . It has nearly identical amounts of detail. You can see part of every letter. The reverse has much stronger feather/wing detail than I would expect to see on a VG-08 as well.
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If you take a look at the VG grading from David Lawrence's Complete Guide to Barber Havles, it lines up with VG-10.
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I'm at VG10 as well


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how can this be a VG-10 with only 2 letters of Liberty ("LI") clearly visible?


because you can't just look at one marker to determine a grade

full rims with denticles. full motto. sharpness of lettering on both sides. roundness of date, cap definition. there are more markers. to me it looks like really nice solid VG10. the gung on the rev will most likely come off with acetone
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Looks like a VG-10 to me. Nice semi-key date.
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