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Need An ID On This Indian Rupee(?) Coin. (Id: Gwalior, Lashkar Mint, KM#140 (1827-43))

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 Posted 06/12/2024  9:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add j_hewes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
It is 19mm dia., 10.84gms

I had no luck several years ago scrolling thru all the rupee images on en.numista.com. Perhaps someone can actually read it.

I make no promises that the images are correctly oriented!
Need-An-ID-On-This-Indian-Rupee?-Coin.-Id:-Gwalior,-Lashkar-Mint,-KM#140-1827-43
Need-An-ID-On-This-Indian-Rupee?-Coin.-Id:-Gwalior,-Lashkar-Mint,-KM#140-1827-43

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John
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 Posted 06/12/2024  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arok to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gwalior IPS?

Sorry, there are about 1000 of them on Zeno to browse through for exact match ...

There is a good match for the second image on Numista. Couldn't find the first though
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Yes Gwalior, Lashkar Mint, KM#140 (1827-43)
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Thank you, andyg!

But this leads to further questions about how Indian coins were minted -- the obverse of KM#140 shown in ngccoins.com is shifted up about 1/2 radius, and the reverse is actually rotated 90 degrees from the horizontal.

Were the rupees struck individually, or were they struck in a sheet and then punched out individually afterwards. How else could you explain the same patterns occurring in different places on the coin?

Are there references to how coins were minted in the Princely States?

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Hammered coins we generally made by putting a blank on the fixed lower die, putting the upper die on top, and hitting the top of the upper die with a hammer. They could try to align the dies, but they didn't always care. The placement, how flat the blank was, and the force of the blow all determine what portions of the dies are on the coin.
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