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Hello all, Have you ever seen a coin that just makes you want to bang your head against a wall? Well, for me, it's this one: https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...e-VF-DetailsAs anyone who's seen Nickelsearcher, Worn Out, and Not Mint to Be's excellent circulated commemorative sets, as well as Nickelsearcher's great posts in the 2014 "Days of Classic Commemoratives" thread will know, York half dollars are nearly impossible to find in a circulated state. As such, when I saw the listing pictures for this coin, I almost needed to sit down and take a minute... until I spotted that it's in a "Details" slab and is cleaned.  If it was straight graded, this would likely be a Pop 1/1 lowball... with only Not Mint to Be's VF-25 York being lower. Here are some pictures of this coin:   I avoid cleaned coins for my growing circulated set, but since the cleaning on this one doesn't seem to be all that harsh, I'm considering doing something I've never done before. Buying this (depending on hammer price, of course) and turning it into a very carefully watched pocket piece. We'll see... I've never had a coin this valuable in my pocket coin rotation, but it's an idea. Just wanted to share! |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Certainly looks cleaned in the enlarged GC images.
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06/19/2024 2:45 pm
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I'm considering doing something I've never done before. Buying this (depending on hammer price, of course) and turning it into a very carefully watched pocket piece. I was going to make that suggestion.  |
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Somewhere in a secret lair, there is an evil numismatics genius with a Pocket Machine (TM) turning AU Details: Cleaned coins into straight grade XF profits.
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Somewhere in a secret lair, there is an evil numismatics genius with a Pocket Machine (TM) turning AU Details: Cleaned coins into straight grade XF profits. I told you that in confidence!  |
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That's a shame. This is a very challenging classic silver commemorative to find in honestly circulated state. Best I was able to do after 15 years of intensive searching is my PCGS AU55 example. Quote:
I avoid cleaned coins for my growing circulated set Resist the temptation to lower that standard - when you finally complete the circulated type set you will be pleased to have honest coins that have served our nations commerce. Quote:
I'm considering doing something I've never done before. Buying this (depending on hammer price, of course) and turning it into a very carefully watched pocket piece. No concerns from me on that approach. I'm confident that several of the examples in my circulated set were pocket pieces at one time, their relatively bright surfaces give them away. Let us know what you decide to do about this coin. |
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No concerns from me on that approach. I'm confident that several of the examples in my circulated set were pocket pieces at one time... Indeed. A pocket piece is honest wear. A rock tumbler is not.  If you do it, please document the progress here: http://goccf.com/t/173203 |
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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The PCGS "92" code means the coin's surfaces are damaged. Without knowing the extent of the damage, it's hard to assess whether the "pocket piece" treatment would work. I would take nickelsearcher's advice and pass.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Bedrock of the Community
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That coin does not look harshly or abrasively cleaned. It is a piece that could be straight-graded on a given day.
So you want to try it as a pocket piece to make it appear "market-acceptable" for a straight grade? That can actually make it appear worse. Be careful.
How do think it was cleaned? Old fashion soap & water? I brief diluted dip in E-Z-est? Spots around the center devices on both sides that appear wiped? Whatever it is it doesn't show up much in these images.
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BH1964 is Correct, The York Half shows Very Little, Actually Not Much at All of any Forensic Cleaning Abrasions . Does Not Magnify .  Now under More Magnification, That's Another Story. The OP Holding the Coin In Hand would See/Take All The Glory  Thank You Silver Searcher for Sharing, I Too Love Commemorative Coins.......  |
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Now under More Magnification, That's Another Story. This is just my opinion, but if I cannot see the cleaning without magnification, then it does not exist.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Not the kind of remark I'd expect to hear from you! |
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Not the kind of remark I'd expect to hear from you! Said in defense of having an alleged cleaned coin or three in my Dansco albums.  |
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 Don't We All have a Few, Suspects. |
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Don't We All have a Few, Suspects. I suspect we all do. |
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It looks cleaned to me in the GC images as well. I just had this one graded- PCGS AG03  |
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Posted 06/19/2024 2:54 pm
