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Valued Member
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Quote: Or almost Proof I should say. Now it has been circulated. A proof is always a proof. That's why there's a grading system
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Bedrock of the Community
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Machine doubling. Die movement distorting the devices. Not a doubled die. The die is normal the striking wasn't.
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I believe the proper term for your coin would be an impaired proof. John1 
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I guess I should have been more clear? I meant circulated Proof. But I guess if I want to be dishonest, I could say proof. There are no circulations scratches or other problems with it. I guess I received it early.
Edited by zakota 05/03/2009 10:09 am
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Rest in Peace
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Pillar of the Community
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There is nothing dishonest about calling a proof coin a proof coin. Proof is a method of manufacture, not a grade. If the coin is proof, it's always proof, whether damaged or not. It's like a new car and a new truck. If you damage the truck it doesn't become a car - it's just a damaged truck. Proof strikes and business strikes are completely different, there is no mixing the two. And I agree that this is Machine Doubling.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: The coin was not struck a second time. Proofs generally are struck more than once...
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I thought that Proofs were struck multiple times.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: The coin was not struck a second time.  Who said that?
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From the Coin Community - Numismatic Glossary (emphasis is mine): Quote: Proof A coin usually struck from a specially prepared coin die on a specially prepared planchet. Proofs are usually given more than one blow from the dies and are usually struck with presses operating at slower speeds and higher striking pressure. Because of this extra care, Proofs usually exhibit much sharper detail than regular, or business, strikes. PCGS recognizes Proofs (PR) as those struck in 1817 and later. Those coins struck prior to 1817 are recognized as Specimen strikes (SP).
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Pillar of the Community
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Proof coins are usually struck more than once. Some proof coins are struck three to five times...larger ones.
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That was my mistake above about the coin not being struck a second time. I saw the Machine Doubling and forgot the fact that it was a proof coin we were talking about. Sorry.
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Bedrock of the Community
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What really looks wierd is when a Proof has MDD from the first strike and then the second strike mashes and spreads that flat doubled shelf from the first strike.
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What looks really cool is the legs of the R's. They come up to a point in the middle, they look as ridges. They look pretty cool. I can't believe I did not post a photo of an R.
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