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1926-S Nickel Altered Mint Mark Or Poor Die Preparation?

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Hello, My first posting in this category. I just received this coin that I purchased on E-bay. The listing photos were less than adequate as many are. My concern is with the mint mark. Could anyone conclude from my photo that this was a D that someone tried to make into an S, or is it just the result of a poorly prepared die? Also note the two indentations on the bottom rim, which could be from a clamp? Thanks for everyone's help.
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 Posted 08/23/2024  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting for sure.
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Can you zoom in for an even larger closeup?
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 Posted 08/23/2024  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, yes. A pic of the mint mark taken at a shallow angle might help.
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PCGS examples do not show the S mintmark in a recess, and the shape of the S is wrong. Your coin appears to be tampered with.
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Hard to say- either a tampered S or a damaged S.
EDIT: Forgot the pictures........duh!

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Not an expert in the series - but does indeed appear to be very suspicious to me.

Also - what's up with the apparent lip ring just below the nose on the obverse photo?
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To me, it looks less like tampering, and more like an actual S mint mark got crushed downwards. Hard to say, though. The proposed pictures would probably resolve that conclusively.
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Sorry, but I do not have access to an imaging microscope. I will try to post some angle pix with different lighting. I would assume that anyone attempting to alter something as small as this mint mark would have access to high resolution imaging and tools to match. With my 40x loup some disturbances in the metal are visible but they do not suggest the remains of a D. The most obvious marks to me are the "scuffing" marks along the rim to the left and right of the mint mark. The only other area that appears unusual is the sunken area where the top of the S should be. In my collecting experience I have learned that a small amount of grease that might remain in difficult to clean areas can distort or prevent accurate striking of an otherwise well prepared die. The "nose ring" visible in the photo is anyone's guess. It has no depth and does not appear to be tooled. There are no abrasions or other scratches in that area. The dark ring around it is bluish in color. I will post some new images ASAP. Thanks for everyone's responses.
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I couldn't imagine anyone counterfeiting Jefferson nickels either but there he was - Francis LeRoy Henning
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Looks okay to me based on the second closeup.
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This is at least a $200 coin. A VF of a key date in the series. It's a coin worth altering, and it is counterfeited frequently.

The leg of the S should be a straight line between the top and bottom. This one is serpentine. The date does not sit up on the field the way you would expect. Both differences are easy to see in Marve65's photo comparison.

Send it in to ANACS.
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Well here is the best I can do with the resources at hand. The more I look at these pix and the coin in hand with the 40x loup, the more convinced I am that its been altered.

thq: Do you think the coin itself is counterfeit?


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From this picture it looks like the surrounding metal was scraped to try to form that S.......

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Dodgy at best .altered around the MM .
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Mint mark is not genuine, interesting. Very weak strike.
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