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Strange Looking 2024 Loonie!

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Today I found the first loonie I've ever seen from 2024. It's also the first time I've seen our new King on a coin!

But it looks like another image has been struck over top of it. I checked the Canadian mint site to see if this was deliberate, and no, it's not!

The reverse of the coin is perfectly normal - loon in the lake, trees, maple leaf, etc.. I'm wondering what the heck I've found.

The overstruck image is really faint, and the best photo I've been able to take so far doesn't show the whole image. If anyone has tips on how to get a clearer image, I'll be grateful. I have a 20 year old Canon powershot camera, which is probably not the best thing for photographing coins. I may also try to use Paint to outline the image.



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And this is what the overstruck image actually looks like, when I highlight it with Paint. The outline that looks like a feather should have the black marks joined at the top, but Paint wouldn't co-operate!

Very strange...wonder how it happened? There is definitely nothing stuck to the coin.


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Photo of other side please.
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I don't see a reason to post that. The reverse is totally normal other than a few nicks from being in circulation.
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They need the reverse to show what made the "clash" mark on the Obverse.
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There is definitely no resemblance between the marks on the obverse, and the picture on the reverse, which is a loon swimming in a lake. Sorry, not going to try to photograph the reverse at night, as my camera flash will be too bright and drown out the detail.

But the reverse looks like this, with the addition of a small maple leaf. The maple leaf is a laser mark, and makes the coin more difficult to counterfeit.

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https://www.mint.ca/en-us/blog/2022...signs-loonie
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From the Obv photo that was not too clear on what you were seeing, I was hoping that someone would overlay the Rev onto the Obv so show what a "clash" would show on the Obv. A "clash" is when the Rev die comes down without a planchet to strike. It then leaves a very weak reversed image into the die that may stay there for a few thousand more strikes. With an overlay, it is easy to see which part of the Rev die shows up around Chas's head. Without better photog, it's hard to tell if the clash hasn't also rotated a bit.
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I talked to a friend last night who photographs coins as part of his job. Have some tips for getting better photos, and wiil see what I can do - after my morning appointment.

He was thinking die clash, too, but when I showed him the reverse, it didn't match up very well.
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but when I showed him the reverse, it didn't match up very well.


Die clashes can be subject to die rotations as well, causing the clash marks to be rotated. However, as suggested by a couple of members so far, better photos of both sides of the coin will be needed to help determine what type of error (if any) are present.

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Okay, better pictures:

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Are these new photos taken by you or your friend?
Photos need to be taken straight on and in focus and with less glare.
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No my friend is a professional photographer. They were obviously taken by Yours Truly.

If you photograph the coin straight on the marks are invisible. I would need a macro lens in order for them to show. My friend was the one who told me to angle the coin to the light so they would show up better.

Bugger it... This is SO hard to photograph! My camera isn't capable of taking a really close up photo, due to the limited focal length. If I place the coin at a slight angle, the camera will focus on the background and THAT will be in focus, and the coin out of focus!

These are the best two shots I got out of at least 20 last night. Makes me really miss my old SLR camera, where I could adjust the focus manually! Oh, and I had to put a piece of paper towel over the flash in order to keep it from drowning out the detail with glare.

Maybe I should just mail the coin to him, and have him photograph it, but he lives in Los Angeles, and I'm about an hour from Toronto, Ontario!

Now that it's daylight, I'll see if I can get better photos with natural light. Any tips are welcome. I used to take nice closeups of insects, but that was with the old Nikon SLR, and real film, not this modern digital point-and-shoot camera. (Yes, I'm an old fart...)
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