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1975 Canadian Penny - Wrong Weight (2.71g)

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 Posted 08/27/2024  08:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add LindalCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey everyone, I found another oddity in my collection for a 1975 Canadian penny that weighs only 2.71g instead of 3.24g. I'm wondering if it's possible that it was accidentally struck on one of the newer 1980+ planchets, but it's a 5 year difference. It is the same diameter as a regular penny of it's year, but is not quite as thick. Let me know your thoughts, thanks in advance!
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 Posted 08/27/2024  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How accurate is your scale?
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 Posted 08/27/2024  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree with Okie here. The odds of finding two off weight planchets like this are very low, especially when both appear to be properly struck in all respects. Maybe your scale is inaccurate.
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 Posted 08/27/2024  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LindalCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My scale is accurate to 2/10 of a gram. I have checked multiple of the 1975 Canadian pennies for reference weights to ensure the scale is reading correctly. See below pictures of the penny in question compared to two others.

You can visually see this coin is thinner than the rest, that's how it caught my eye amongst the various other 1975 coins and why I weighed it.
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 Posted 08/27/2024  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No other coins minted by the RCM in 1975 match the weight or the diameter.

Perhaps a rolled-thin planchet?
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 Posted 08/27/2024  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that I see the reverse I am wondering if detail is missing. The photo is not great. This may be a coin that was put in acid on one side. Acid will remove metal pretty evenly and leave the details legible but irregular.
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 Posted 08/27/2024  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LindalCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See better photos, there doesn't appear to be any excessive damage to either side of the coin. See side profile for reference as well compared to another 1975 Canadian penny.
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 Posted 08/27/2024  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LindalCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apologies, I named multiple pictures the same filename and accidentally removed some pictures. See below for the pictures that should have been included showing the reference between original 1975 pennies and the one in question.
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 Posted 08/27/2024  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The photos are not really good enough to be sure. But I think I see some "ripple-iness" on the reverse. I think that this is an acid dipped coin. They can look surprisingly good.

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See attached for better pictures, I tried to use my microscope light to show the definition of either side.
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LindalCoins,
Please no more photos.
Also,please properly crop photos before posting them,we only need to see the coin,thanks.
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I agree with Johnnysprawl on the rolled-thin planchet suggestion, from the information I have on hand, the Canadian Mint did not strike foreign coinage for any countries with that specific weight in 1975.
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Given the "foreign planchet" hypothesis can be discounted, the two most plausible explanations for a much-lighter-weight coin are (a) thin-rolled planchet, and (b) acid attack. Acid would be my usual go-to explanation, simply because it's more probable. However, to lose this much mass, the acid would need to attack all surfaces tot he same degree - so the coin ought to therefore be noticeably smaller in diameter as well as thinner. Further, this much acid attack ought to create a "sharpening" effect and some degree of pitting or un-even-ness , and if anything this coin is too smooth, too flat - which certainly pushes towards a weak strike, and a weak strike would be an expected side-effect of a thinner-than-specification planchet.
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 Posted 09/09/2024  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Given the "foreign planchet" hypothesis can be discounted


I'm not sure exactly how you determined this hypothesis can be discounted. (Please explain)
Reading this post it would indicate to the reader that this is not a foreign planchet because the RCM didn't mint any coins on planchets this size or weight in 1975.
However would you not have to look back to all previous years before 1975 also? What if a planchet fell into or under some machinery in 1940 or 1966 (pick any year) but wasn't discovered until they moved the machinery years later. At this time it was tossed back into the hopper now holding the blanks for coins that were being minted in 1975.
All we know with certainty is the coin was minted in 1975 but the blank planchet could have been from any year Prior.
let's say the blank planchet has no match for anything minted by the RCM past or present, if it was sent into PCGS it could come back as minted on unknown foreign planchet.
I have a coin from 1942 on a unknown foreign planchet.
With that being said looking at the pictures supplied I'm not convinced it's minted on a foreign planchet either. I would say this is a coin that looks suspect of being subjected to some form of acid.

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