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1879-CC Morgan PCGS MS-64+ - Any Concerns?

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Purchased this coin. The cert verification comes back to PCGS MS64+Capped Die, though my coin does not have the designation on it. Anyway PCGS would not have included capped die? Do they fake PCGS slabs? Your input and knowledge is appreciated. Thank you!
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Do they fake PCGS slabs?


Yes they do, along with the coins in them.
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https://lcrcoin.com/1879-cc-capped-...r-pcgs-ms64/

Odd that yours says "Morgan" in the place where it should say "Capped Die". None of the Capped Dies that I looked at omit those words, and none of them include the word Morgan.

The only PCGS dollar slabs I can find with the word Morgan on them are the 1921's.

Beyond that, the 7 in the date looks wrong. I would be asking for a refund.

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Sure doesn't look like a 64+ in your images.
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Hold it to the light and see if the NFC chip is in the label. If the chip is not there, it's a fake.
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This is fake as can be, no tests or better photos needed.
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Both the slab and the coin appears counterfeit.
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Sorry to say, 100% Fake.
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Fake slab
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Looks like it is even missing the PCGS embossed on the plastic slab itself, should be on the lower right obverse of the slab.
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Wow - our experts have weighed in on fake. Hope you can get a refund.
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The coin is absolutely fake as is the holder !
Has the typical poorly reproduced holder and the
"Coin" has the Chinese counterfeit , washed out look.
Sure hope you are not out 20 K or so .
You have been scammed !
Suggest everyone watch the video referred to above .
Most excellent and enlightening.
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Love the video above my friend Russ did on these; I call them the "Morgan" Morgans when I see them.

Here is another in my collection to compare:

1879-CC-Morgan-PCGS-MS-64+---Any-Concerns?

All I have seen also have the label added to the outside of the slab, and the barcode will not read (this one didn't read with my scanner either).

And they used a PCGS cert with no image so no comparison image.

Although the reverse uses the common bad "CC" reverse with the partial "O" (these are casts) the obverse appears more realistic to the eye; we had commented they can't fake genuine "bag marks" but it looks from the OP's posted image they are trying...

1879-CC-Morgan-PCGS-MS-64+---Any-Concerns?

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I missed the broken O burfle23. Ugh.
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