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1800 Large Cent; Restorable? If So, Worth Restoring?

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 Posted 10/19/2024  5:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone,

This is an early coin I bought in Rome. I'm curious if the forum members think it can be restored and if so
.. is it worth it?

Thanks everyone!




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 Posted 10/19/2024  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't imagine that the right side would ever look natural however much money you spend on restoration.
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 Posted 10/19/2024  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a 7 over 8 variety?
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 Posted 10/19/2024  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly. Can you post in focus images and close ups of 0900 & 1500 on Reverse.

This is a dirt coin I just finished restoring. It would never straight grade but 10x better than the start.

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 Posted 10/19/2024  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't see this ever straight-grading.
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 Posted 10/19/2024  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Can't see this ever straight-grading.


Re: the 1853, that is exactly what I said. Neither the before or after would straight.

Re: Roma's 1800, same. Neither the before or after would straight.

So the question becomes, which version would you rather look at.
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 Posted 10/19/2024  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it would be worth conserving. It would never straight grade, but it would look so much better.
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 Posted 10/20/2024  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is the 8 over 7 variety.

I am in agreement with everyone that this coin won't straight grade.

I was asking if the date and overall better condition for the type would justify sending to pcgs for conservative. The verdigris on th obverse is my concern.

If it cost $50-75 to conserve and encapsulate I would feel I did my part for a less common large cent. I'd also be more inclined to take it out and look at it


When I get home in a few I'll send some more photos.
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 Posted 10/20/2024  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a lot more pictures in different lights to show the surface and color of the coin.
**The last two are for color contrast** I know they are blurry



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 Posted 10/20/2024  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just can't see spending money to improve a coin that could never straight-grade. Doubt the investment would ever be recouped on sale.
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 Posted 10/30/2024  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimbo48 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that spending $50 to $75 to conserve would not be my choice. If the Verdigris is your main concern, I would treat the coin with Verdi-Care. I have treated several coins with good results.
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 Posted 10/30/2024  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing to conserve - pitting on Reverse kills any spend. As mentioned, VC on Obverse corrosion to neutralize and then capsule it.
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 Posted 11/04/2024  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Nothing that PCGS or NGC would touch. The most I would do is remove the green corrosion on the obverse myself with careful precision.

Pretty smooth copper otherwise!! I love the coin.
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It's a Type 1 Hair! Great RedBook variety! Maybe some vaseline to stop the new corrosion... but I wouldn't worry about it
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Agree, maybe a drop of olive oil on the corrosion, but leave well enough alone.
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 Posted 12/19/2024  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Jimbo48:
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If the Verdigris is your main concern, I would treat the coin with Verdi-Care.

However I would not go to the expense of professional "restoration" and slabbing.
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