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2017 D Jefferson Nickel Not Glue, Circles Error.

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Hello new Numismatic Community. I am new to your forum.
Through my research I have only found one related error. Concentric circles with clad layer intact. I would appreciate any insight. Thank you
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to the CCF, RenoWulf! Nickels are a solid alloy, not clad like dimes, quarters, and half dollars.
Are you sure that it's not glue? Have you soaked it in acetone?
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That's just damage or a foreign substance that cannot happen during minting.
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Post-strike damage--likely of a mechanical nature (old school rotary vending/coin insert device). I've seen hundreds of similar examples on nickels over decades of searching.
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Post-strike damage

That was my first thought. But it doesn't seem that the L of Liberty has been pushed, so I went back to the glue hypothesis.
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To CCF! It's PMD. Not an error.
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I've seen hundreds of similar examples on nickels over decades of searching.

Right. And also just one side sanded - wonder why it's usually only on nickels though?
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Glue, I think. You can see some of the features through the substance, which wouldn't happen for PMD.
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Concentric circles with clad layer intact.

Just remember nickels are not clad coins - they are a solid alloy metal comprised of 75% copper and 25% nickel.
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I think glue is correct, it was glued to something round.
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to the CCF and PMD.
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Thank you community for your insight. I've been told never to clean the coin number one.
Number two if you were to look closely you would see that there is molten metal around the circle. My apologies if the photo did not come out as defined as I would have liked.
If it had been done at the minute how can you tell? I have seen similar circular imprints on many different coins. I would think there is a method that determines free or post mint. Like the molten metal I see outside rings.
I don't mind being wrong LOL
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The method that helps determine whether something was done during or after minting is pretty simple. Learn the minting process. The minting process is a pretty straight forward manufacturing procedure, with all steps well known and documented. Once you learn this it is a simple matter of asking yourself, " at what point in the minting process could this have happened, and how?'. Knowing this, it's pretty easy to determine that there is no way for this to have happened during minting. I'd bet heavily on glue, acetone won't hurt the coin a bit if done properly. If you are correct and it is melted metal, then someone has soldered it. Regardless, it has been altered post mint.
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I agree whole heartedly with ICutler.

ps. One reason I like using the term PSD (Post Strike Damage) is because it indicates damage caused after the dies strike the coin. The damage can be at the mint or outside the mint and PSD should eliminate questions about where the damage happened because where the damage happens is irrelevant.
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