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1983 Penny With Unusual Die Crack & Delamination

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 Posted 10/14/2024  5:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TedError to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please take a look at this 1983 penny with unusual die crack and delamination on the obverse rim. I don't think it is PMD. Looks like a die crack/break and the rim is not significantly damaged. I tried to take a photo to show this. The delamination looks to be peeled back to the rim. Your expertise is always appreciated.
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 Posted 10/14/2024  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting.
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 Posted 10/14/2024  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can the plating just be coming off in that area?
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 Posted 10/14/2024  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Plating issue, but not considered a de-lamination or lamination peel since it's a plated cent. (or at least it should be in 1983)
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Can't tell for sure with these pics but could be cracked plating.

LINK https://www.error-ref.com/cracked-a...ing-plating/
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Sharper pics needed.
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 Posted 10/14/2024  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TedError to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Added three more up close photos.

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Thanks for the nice closeups! It looks like even the exposed area is raised. I'm not so sure this isn't a Cud or pre-cud that the plating came off of, possibly just by damage to the coin though. The 83's were heavy with Cuds.

LINK https://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-c...cuds-1983-2/
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 Posted 10/14/2024  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good conversation piece.
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I like it.
The last three images are very helpful. I agree with lots of folks above but the image showing the field to the left of the shoulder really looks like a retained piece of a struck through of a piece of metal.
The rest of the incuse area may be where the extra metal was torn away.
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 Posted 10/15/2024  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not too sure it is a cud- but it sure is interesting looking.
It looks like the zinc planchet was contaminated and the copper electroplate did not adhere properly and is pealing away.
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Very Cool " Looking " Piece,

The 1983 Lincoln Cent Planchet looks like it was a combination of Poor metal Composition, as seen in the Missing Portion(s) Discoloring and Apparent Die Break, on Top of what Could Be as PeteS55 Noted, a Struck-Through.

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The First of The Last photos Shows Discoloration, ( possibly De- Lamination ), in the Lower portion of The Void. Also in looking at the Same Last top photo You can See a Wavy Area Just Above the Upset Rim, from the Middle of the Photo to The Right, To Me, it appears the Upsetting of This Planchet , With The De-Lamination already going on There Too...

Not to Mention the Already Nice Die Break Too, Which I Bet there Are More Die Stages to This .

Lots Going on with This Lincoln Cent !!! Just My Opinions, Thank You for Sharing, Excellent Eyes Too !!!!!!

The Small Horizontal " necrotic " or Blackened Areas show Possible Other Die Breaks or De-Lamination?
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I don't know about a retained struck through, as there are flow lines that carry through all areas, unless the flow lines were just struck into the extra metal, which I guess is possible.
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I agree. Interesting example.
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 Posted 10/15/2024  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TedError to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all of the responses. Doesn't look like I have a final conclusion on this one.

Does anyone have a recommendation on what to do with this coin? Maybe send it to someone? Thanks.
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