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1893 $1 Morgan Silver Dollar #2

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$645. This one had a low mintage of 389,000 but the TPGs have graded thousands, so not particularly difficult to locate. Thoughts? Thanks!

1893-$1-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-#2
1893-$1-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-#2
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/10/2024  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adam126402 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say AU53.
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I'll say AU.
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It's AU something but I'm going to reserve further analysis until we have some better photos. (I'm counting on you, NS!)

I really, really want to see the luster and surfaces, because these photos aren't flattering Miss Liberty at all. Fields look washed out.
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AU details, cleaned.
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I'm not convinced the surfaces are original, so I'm also at AU details, unless better pics can show some luster.
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Mid-AU i'll call it AU55
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Lean towards AU Details Cleaned on this one
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Looks like a cleaned AU53 to me.
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This one finally came in. Thoughts? Thanks!

1893-$1-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-#2
1893-$1-Morgan-Silver-Dollar-#2
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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On the obverse, I see a lot of parallel lines akin to scratches. I think they are due to cleaning. Also, there is no luster whatsoever on the face of Liberty. It's flat and lifeless. There is a funny little dimple under the "3". Finally, the coin seems to have a massive rim ding at 11 o'clock.
The reverse looks a bit better, but the breast feathers of the Eagle are all gone, while the wings still have luster. Maybe also a sign of cleaning? Or is it a weak strike? There are scuff marks under "In God We Trust".

Verdict: UNC Details.
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Looks worse in the new pics. I'd go Au details harshly cleaned
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Definitely AU details, cleaned. The rim issue might just be glare from a holder.
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Deceptive seller photos, harshly cleaned, scratched. Not a fan.
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Busy surfaces with lots of small marks and enough parallel obverse hairlines to indicate cleaning. Certified AU examples have sold recently for close to what you paid. Seems like you can do better for about the same cost.
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Cleaned , AU details
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