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How To Tell The Difference Between 1970 No S Proof And 1970 Philadelphia?

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 Posted 11/30/2024  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is easy to tell a proof from a business strike.
a proof die AND planchets are prepared differently - to a higher standards when would be for a normal business strike coin that is intended for commerce (spending, dropping in a parking lot or other types of coin torture.
Here have a look:
a 1970-S Proof cent
How-To-Tell-The-Difference-Between-1970-No-S-Proof-And-1970-Philadelphia? How-To-Tell-The-Difference-Between-1970-No-S-Proof-And-1970-Philadelphia?
and now a 1970-S Business strike
How-To-Tell-The-Difference-Between-1970-No-S-Proof-And-1970-Philadelphia? How-To-Tell-The-Difference-Between-1970-No-S-Proof-And-1970-Philadelphia?
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Nice presentation, well done.
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I know the San Francisco 1970 is supposed to have an S, but for the error no matter how rare it might be to find

I scoured Google for a 1970 No S cent and found nothing. Can you post a link?


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I'm talking about the 1970 No S San Francisco penny that can be discovered in a ten piece Mint set that contains coins from all three mints P,D & S

This 1970 United States Mint set is the 12th year of issue. It includes 10 coins, consisting of the nickel, dime, quarter struck at the Philadelphia and Denver Mints, the cent was struck at San Francisco, Philadelphia and Denver Mints with the half dollar struck only at the Denver Mint.

The uncirculated set with three business strike cents (P/D/S) was obviously assembled with all the coins together somewhere. If you found two 1970 cents with no mint mark, and the 1970-S was missing, then I would interpret that as someone accidentally placing two Philadelphia cents into the packaging. It seems like a leap to assume that there would be a No S business strike cent in that situation, because it can be so easily explained by simple manual error.

In contrast, the 1970 No S proof dime cannot be explained as anything other than a missing mint mark, because dime proofs were only struck in San Francisco.
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PEOPLE poster is asking about business struck cents (that being said)


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How can you tell the difference between a 1970 No S Lincoln Cent from San Francisco, compared to a basic 1970 Philadelphia Lincoln Cent?


If this cent did exist there would be NO WAY TO TELL the difference....because in 1970 all dies were made in Philly then divided up and shipped to Denver and San Francisco and from there the mint marks would be applied to the die (by hand) and that's also what gives us variety coins with an RPM (re-punched mint mark)
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There is absolutely no difference between business strike cents minted in Philly or San Francisco other than the mintmark. So if a 1970 Lincoln Cent has no mintmark, you can assume it was minted in Philadelphia.
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Ok, My confusion is answered. Very informative, thank you! Also nice pictures and that also makes sense how the rpm's are produced, always wondered and never put two and two together. The different varieties have me curious about the small date and large date 1970 s business and proofs strikes. So many variations of error possibilities. Thank you!
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