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How To Tell The Difference Between 1970 No S Proof And 1970 Philadelphia?

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Let me just start off by saying duhhh haha a coin can come from Philadelphia and not have Mint mark. since my other post wasn't easy enough to understand.
How do you tell the difference between a 1970 Philadelphia and a 1970 No S San Francisco that were sent out in the same 10 piece Mint set from P,D,S packaging by accident and a 1970 Philadelphia business strike If the glass like reflection is faded from cellophane packaging? I know you look to see if the rim is fatter and more square like it's a good sign, and if detail is more bold, but besides that is there any other way to tell? The RIM on this 1970 is the same
Width and square looking as the 1970 S next to it.

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I'm not aware that the US Mint has ever erroneously sent out a proof coin in uncirculated set packaging.
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Ahhh Zurie, so that makes me ask if the 1970 S in the mint set are Proofs or a San Francisco business strike that had an S as well. The image I took shows the 1970 1970S next to each other in a blue Philadelphia mint set. Thank you for responding.
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1970 United States Mint Set in Original Government Packaging! 10 Coins Inside!. 1970 United States Mint Set from 1970 included a total of 10 coins struck at three different mint facilities. Each set comprised of Lincoln Cents (P, D, S), Jefferson nickels (D, S), Roosevelt dimes (P, D), Washington quarters (P, D), and one Kennedy half dollar (D) was struck in a composition of 40% silver and importantly was not issued for circulation. This created a low mintage key date for the recently released series and a draw for many collectors. There are also the chance of finding a small date 1970-s Lincoln Cent trending $80 for ms65 rd.. The Philadelphia Mint coins and the single Lincoln Cent struck at the San Francisco Mint were placed within a cellophane pack with a blue stripe and the Denver Mint coins were placed in a pack with a red stripe. The two were placed between sheets of light cardboard within a white envelope marked "19__ U.C." with the Treasury Department address.
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Looks to be the standard back in 70
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Yes Marve65, how would an individual see the difference between a 1970 No S San Francisco and a 1970 Philadelphia, because they 1970 No S from what I am area where found in these sets. For example If the 1970 had a Philadelphia penny and a No S San Francisco penny, what would help you know the difference? No S San Francisco proof would have a rim that is wider right? If the 1970 No S San Francisco strike that was mistakenly put in the set is a business strike, would they only know if it was if it's in the San Francisco Penny slot of the set? Thank you for responding.
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The No-S aspect just confuses the question. The question you are really asking is: how can you tell the difference between a 1970 proof and business strike Lincoln Cent? Fortunately, you can compare a 1970-S uncirculated business strike and a 1970-S proof strike to answer that question for yourself. If you can distinguish those two coins, then you can distinguish a 1970 business strike from a 1970 No-S proof strike.
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The simple answer is that there are no proof 1970 Lincoln cents without an S mintmark. So if it's a 1970 Lincoln Cent without a mintmark in a cellophane mint package, it's a business strike from Philadelphia.
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Zurie has a good answer, as well as the others.
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Not all that complicated, I think.
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The comparison between a proof and business strike is very noticeable in its finish.
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Nothing the OP has shown us has a remotely proof surface.
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This post was a multi question post. 1st question essentially got answered, the 1970 No S is a San Francisco Business strike, and not a San Francisco Proof. Second Question not that I still don't understand how an individual can recognize the difference from a 1970 Philadelphia and the 1970 No S business strike for San Francesco. Since San Francisco made a 1970 S for both proof and Business strike I wasn't sure which one it was.. same goes for the nickel.. now I do. Besides the coin being in a specific location in the mint bag, how would anyone tell? San Francisco Die was better than the typical Philadelphia die? I know I am terrible and writing my questions and speaking on what confuses me but my goodness, get past if my coin is a proof or not. that was a fraction of my questions. Thank you for your responses however if you aren't being mean. Cheers
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I'm sorry, what are we even talking about here? The 1970 No S proof dime is a Roosevelt dime. Are we discussing a hypothetical No S proof cent for that year? Or is this just confusion over the 1970 and 1970-S uncirculated business strike cents?
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Brandmeister This post is about the Lincoln Cent. How can you tell the difference between a 1970 No S Lincoln Cent from San Francisco, compared to a basic 1970 Philadelphia Lincoln Cent? I know the San Francisco 1970 is supposed to have an S, but for the error no matter how rare it might be to find, what else could be looked for to know the difference between the two Mints? I'm talking about the 1970 No S San Francisco penny that can be discovered in a ten piece Mint set that contains coins from all three mints P,D & S
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