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1970 No S Dime? What Would You Grade It?

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 Posted 11/30/2024  08:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, is this a 1970 no S Dime? The reason I am asking is because I have a Nickel that has the same exact frosting haze that's like orange ish red. It may I have came in the same mint set pack but, tbh I can't remember with this exact pack. The condition is very nice, what do you all think?


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 Posted 11/30/2024  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats, yes, it's no S. It's also no D.

It is an ordinary business strike dime, minted in Philadelphia. As the original mint, they didn't start using the P on dimes until 1980.

You are confused by clickbait. The 1970 No S PROOF dime is rare, with only a few hundred known. Proof is a type of manufacturing that combines specially prepared dies, specially prepared planchets, and special manufacturing to create coins for collectors.

But there were 345m ordinary dimes minted in Philly. And that's what you have.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update, I was looking under some papers in my coin area and came across a 1970s mint set with the penny looking exactly the 1970 S penny next to it. Coins probably came from that set. I'll post another topic for the 1970 penny.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BStrauss3 you're a troll. you know there's an error out there for a proof to have no S right? Obviously this might be a Philadelphia dime. If you can't give a reasonable response to how to spot a dime proof with no S please do so, because this has the same exact hazing and coloring as the proof Nickel it came with. pos but since you have no since of patience for people trying to get into coins, maybe you should take some classes on that
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 Posted 11/30/2024  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a damaged business strike. Be careful about throwing around the word "troll".
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 Posted 11/30/2024  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What else is it if someone is replying with a sarcastic answer Coinfrog? Obviously the topic wasn't a post about me having a 1970 no S, but a question about wondering why it has the same coloring and foggy texture of a 1970 S Proof nickel from the same mint Set. Can you please explain more on what is making it a damaged business strike? It came out of a mint envelope set that I opened up. Did it have a damaged planchet or something? The whole part of my topic was to educated.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's absolutely no worn areas, scratches, or marks on the obverse and reverse of the coin.
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This is an image from PCGS with the same exact coloring I see, on my coin, and the haze like finish that a Proof would get when in a plastic mint bag. There has to be another way to determine the difference between Philadelphia business strike and No S proofs. It had no marks, scratches or rub marks, and the obverse and reverse is full in detail that is bold from my other dimes.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, you should lose the attitude.

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It came out of a mint envelope

I pretty sure, proofs came in boxes. Starting in 1968.
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@BStrauss3 gave a perfectly good explanation for why your dime isn't the valuable 1970 no S proof dime, if you really care to be educated. The coloration and haze on a coin has nothing to do with a coin being proof or not. Proof coins have highly reflective, mirror-like surfaces, which do not go away in mint packaging, and which your coin clearly does not have. And as @Keith67 said, proof coins were not placed in Uncirculated set packaging in 1970.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keith67 Yes, I know Proofs came in boxes and Proof from San Francisco came in proof set that is typically packaged in plastic cases and that certain cameos I am aware Philadelphia and Denver mints had came in Envelopes. I am aware the 1970 No S dime is extremely rare to find. I understand that 99.9% chance is I don't have a 1970 no S dime. I am just wondering how to tell the difference if an older penny proof like finish, no matter if cameo, deep cameo or just the normal mirror like finish is faded being in contact with plastic bagging. I know At one time in history the production of a cameo proof was an unintentional effect of a die that started to wear and had its fields refreshed by a careful polishing. The device of a worn die cannot be polished and so retains its frosty appearance. It's not clear where the 1970 no S dime was found, and it's known that that the 1970 no S Lincoln memorial was found in Philadelphia business strike mint sets because they ship the 1970s in the set. What if they shipped some dimes from San Francisco just like the penny's? How else would someone be able to tell the difference?
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zurie, My question originally stemmed from why does it happen? The coloring is from oxidation of metal, but what is the hazing from, oxidation? The Lincoln 10970 no S was found in mint envelops from the Philadelphia mint, so Simple education on why this happens instead of an overly sarcastic remark about congratulating a person about a business strike is not insightful, as well assuming they watched a click bait. I know how rare it is, anyone can open the a PCGS internet page and look how rare. I'm not on here trying to sell the coin like a clickbait video suggests. Jumping to conclusions instead of talking to an individual would go a long way. Thank you for the response Zurie.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe most of the no s dimes came from the Mints Prestige Sets.

Even impaired proofs will still keep their reflective fields. Remember proof nickels are made of nickel where as proof dimes are clad. That might account for your thinking.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent info! Thank you for responding Greasy Fingers
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"Psycho-babble" is a medical term for speech or writing that uses psychological jargon, buzzwords, and esoteric language to create an impression of truth or plausibility.
That's what I gather from this OP's responses.
This OP's responses are an all too familiar pattern of behavior on this forum.
Really a shame.

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I agree that it's just a Business strike.
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