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1980-P 1c W/ Reeded Edge

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Found this 1980 1C with a reeded edge last night in a bowl of pocket change. Does anyone know if the Philadelphia Mint was contracted at the time to produce any foreign coinage of similar diameter, but with reeded edges? This is the only reasonable explanation I can think of, outside of some carefully planned PMD. Thank you in advance for any knowledge you can provide. Trolls need not apply!! Weight is 3.039g
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To CCF! I'm thinking PMD, but not sure how it happened.
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With reeds being added to the coin at the moment of striking on reeded coins,
not sure how this can happen. Sure looks convincing though!
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Very interesting.....
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With reeds being added to the coin at the moment of striking on reeded coins,
not sure how this can happen. Sure looks convincing though!
Coin must have been put through some kind of knurling process.
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Very interesting cent. I'm not sure what caused the reeding or if it has any real value, but you should not hold a coin with your fingers like you did in photos. Those finger prints are forever and will sure lower any value that it may have Try holding only by edges . Just my humble opinion.
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Coin must have been put through some kind of knurling process.

Very interesting though there - and quite possible.

Curious - is the coin thicker than normal? I think that I see slight bulges on top of the rim..
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I am looking for some coins (pennies) I got as a kid at Niagra Falls (Canada) that you
would crank into a machine and I believe they added a reeded edge, as well as altering
both faces of the coin.
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Some type of mechanical damage since a cent planchet won't fit in a dime collar die.

I believe Mike Diamond addressed this before and confirmed the most likely type of machine.

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The collar for a 1 cent coin does not have reeding so it
must have happened after it left the mint. PMD
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No one addressed my original question, and went right their own assumptions and opinions :-( Given the level of assumed level of expertise in the forum, I figured I wouldn't have to spell it out explicitly, but alas, here we go:

There is a plausible scenario that does not include PM knurling or the impossible use of a standard US penny die band which is smooth, and that is that it may have been struck during a run of a similarly sized foreign coin for which the US Mint was contracted to produce in the same time period when the 1980-P 1C die was in service.

Someone could have mistakenly grabbed the collar from the reeded foreign coin, especially if all dies or hubs of a particular size range were serviced and cleaned in the same area or room. I am looking to see if anyone has come acrosss some official documents regarding production of foreign coins during the same time period.

If foreign coinage was in-fact produced during the same period, it's plausible that this could have happened during the run of a US 1C penny run or during the foreign coin run.

Do you or someone you know have any evidence of foreign coin production during this time period that can either support or refute the above claim?

Thanks for reeding!
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ontleden, please crop your images before uploading, I just took the time to do the ones here. It literally takes about 5 seconds each to do it before uploading them.
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Well, I read your original question and should have added/posted this:
https://minterrornews.com/foreign_c..._figures.pdf
This is the most complete list I've some across. You will notice many columns, countries, denominations, and even whether a particular US coin could have been produced on the foreign planchet listed.

ps. I'm guessing you searched online for "Did the US produce any foreign coins in 1980?" but didn't have much luck.

EDIT: Please add the diameter of the coin.
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It is a manufactured example. Did not happen at the mint.
https://www.usmint.gov/learn/produc...IZssqT9tqKXj
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Agreed, just a fake example of a reeded coin. You're welcome, for the replies!
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