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2012 D Lincoln Shield Cent, Ring Of Death Or Something Else?

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So I went by my uncle's house a couple days ago and noticed he had a Ziploc bag over half full of pennies, most of which I could see were memorials. After asking what was their purpose, he said they were from a garage sale back in 2012, must've been sitting in his truck that had been broke down! So, I started sifting through em, putting some key dates aside, where it was obvious that this event occurred in '12 because those, as well as the '11's looked brand new! Anyway, I found this '12 LSC and it has something happening just inside the rim. I hope my pics catch it, but it seems too far from the rim to be the Ring of Death, plus, right above liberty, u can see where they polished out some of this raised crescent section. I will probably have to pull out the scope to see it, but under God, you can see what looks like small lamination like "cracks"? I've never seen this and I'm sure there's a plausible explanation, but I need some education on this matter, obviously! But am I correct in saying that the mint couldn't/wouldn't be able to polish out a Ridge Ring correct?

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 Posted 02/10/2025  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And yes I apologize for the excessive pics, I was trying to turn at different angles attempting to catch what I'm seeing in hand
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 Posted 02/10/2025  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing Ridge Ring (bulge-like)--a Die Deterioration artifact. The 'arc' of the other feature doesn't seem to match that of classic roll wrapping damage.
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And the polishing aspect? Am I correct in assuming that ridge rings would not be polished off of a coin? Because, while my pics are not clear enough to see, there are obvious polish marks where they tried cleaning it up? Is some sort of clash or counter clash be a possibility?
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Possible Coin Wrapping Machine Damage and Ridge Ring. I think I can see polishing marks too.
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The close up picture of Liberty and the bulge near the rim is the Ridge Ring, using same picture, the line under "in god" is from Coin Wrapping Machine.
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I am unfamiliar with Coin Wrapping Machine Damage but that sounds like that is something that happens after the coin is through the minting process, but again I don't know for sure? With that being said these marks were almost certainly polished, disappearing just north of liberty, so I guess I have the same question about that as about ridge rings: would a mint employee polish Coin Wrapping Machine Damage?
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Looking at some of the examples, while it's located at about the same location, these areas almost seem to bulge outward? I don't have much experience with broadstruck coins, but it's the first place my mind went after looking at this coin with my loupe! Maybe when I get home, I can get some better, closer, pics that hopefully will show what I'm seeing! I will say that I'm not on board with Coin Wrapping Machine theory, but what do I know!
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Ridge Ring and coin crimping damage. And yes, polishing will not take out a Ridge Ring. It's just the die wearing out and stretching.
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 Posted 02/12/2025  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I was able to get a couple pics of those two lamination -like cracks, however, not the best pics! Any thoughts on the cause? Surely not Coin Wrapping Machine huh?
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 Posted 02/12/2025  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe put an arrow to what your asking about.
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