Hi! Can I get opinions on grade for this 1927 Peace dollar? Also, are there signs it has been cleaned? There are some surface scratches but nothing that says to me it has been cleaned. Would be happy to hear what other people think and what they are looking at if cleaned. I tried to get photos from different angles for lighting. Photos don't do a good job of showing the great luster. Edit: added 2 additional images to hopefully show luster better.
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jacrispies, it has a lot of luster but it doesn't show well in my pictures. The actual coin is visually very appealing and cartwheels nicely. If you have any recommendations on how to take photos to show the natural luster I'm all ears!
Can you let me know what you are seeing that makes you think it has been cleaned? Trying to get better at identifying evidence of cleaning. There are some scratches but they seem more like scratches from being in a sleeve rather than brushing. Thanks!
I'm in at Unc-Details due to cleaning...IMO coin shows no luster but a high gloss shine from the cleaning.
Quote: it has a lot of luster
What you want to see is a cartwheel effect
Quote: cartwheel 1. The pleasing effect seen on some coins when they are rotated in a good light source. The luster rotates around like the spokes of a wagon wheel. A term applied mainly to frosty Mint State coins, especially silver dollars, to describe their luster. Also, a slang term for a silver dollar.
copy and pasted from the numismatic glossary located on the left of every page.
Greasy Fingers, it does cartwheel nicely but I'm unable to show it in the photos with my phone. I might try taking more photos with my camera to see if those help. I'll probably take it into my LCS to see what they think of the coin in person.
The last series of pics are so illuminated that it washes out the defects of this coin. My first impression was that it had been cleaned due to the heavy scratching not only in the fields but crossing the devices as well. Cleaned or not, I agree with Adam that the scratches alone are significant enough to keep this out of a straight grade holder. I'm calling it MS details- scratched.
It's been Improperly Cleaned. It is void of natural luster and mint bloom. With time you'll learn to see this. It's understandable if you are relatively new to collecting that you think it's problem-free. 20 years ago I was in your shoes and I didn't take more than a few months and viewing a few dozen coin to note the differences.
Thanks everyone your insight on the coin. I can certainly understand the opinions based on the photos. I'm having a tough time with this one because I haven't been able to take any photos that truly capture what the coin looks like in person. I have uncirculated coin sets that look virtually identical and also don't show show well when I try taking photos.
I'll probably take to my LCS to see what they say when they can see it in person. Mainly because I'm just interested.
Greetings screetalus A few months ago, I would've looked at the pictures of this Peace dollar and thought it was fine and hadn't been cleaned, or attempted to be cleaned I should say because it looks like that may have been the case, either way I think we all mostly know and agree that it should not be done, if you are serious about Numismatics and care about the value and originality of your Coins. Anyway, if you go back out on the main topic list for grading just down a little ways, you'll see a 1923-S Peace dollar for grading That belongs to me, and unfortunately, somebody at some point cleaned it. I'm thinking they possibly even took a buffer to it, which baffles me Please take a look if you would like and tell me what you think.
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Posted 03/05/2025 3:47 pm
A few months ago, I would've looked at the pictures of this 
. Anyway, if you go back out on the main topic list for grading just down a little ways, you'll see a 1923-S 
Please take a look if you would like and tell me what you think.
