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04/25/2025 4:37 pm
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There are two known DDOs for 1958. There is the major DDO, with only three known examples. And there is a minor Class V DDO affecting the TRU of TRUST that is only listed on Copper Coins as 1958P-1-DO-001. Your coin is not the major DDO. If you think it could be the minor DDO, check the link. I can't see the shadowed area next to the TRU clearly enough in your photos, and you don't have the whole-coin photos needed to see the extensive die polishing and known markers. You may want to look at that listing if you see doubling that your photos can't show. There are die markers for it, but I've seen quite a few of them in hand, and the die pair had an incredible amount of harsh die polishing on both the obverse and reverse. It's an easy DDO to spot in hand because of the polishing lines. |
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Cannot be Die Deterioration as the letters are not bulged, not fuzzy, they are the right heights, depths, widths, the letters are in regular form for a standard coin. Beneath the letters slightly above the remnants of the previous strike are abundantly clear with Sharp defined line above the branches of "U" and above the "N" in the "In God We Trust". |
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how about larger close up images - I'm tired of squinting
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Can you not zoom in on the photo? I can e-mail you a HD image.
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to the CCF If you think your coin looks anything like the real 001, stick around here for a few weeks. Your opinion will change. |
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I definitely am not saying it's the 001. But why is the lettering the perfect dimensions but with all that underneath?
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For EVERYONE that doubted me. Here it is, no mistaking it. Check out this 1958-D 1C, BN on PCGS CoinFacts! https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/detail/2849Exactly what I said it was. 1958 1C DDO FS-101 BN. Infact I have darker coin but a more impressive doubling. I said the letters were not effected in anyway or shape or blobbing. ZOOM IN. They are exactly the same doubling. So, now the question? Why did everyone say Die Deterioration when the letters were very nice in their form. There is no extra space from a proposed Die Deterioration for the letters to smudge or run off. It's crystal clear that there are identical letters underneath the final stamping. Glad I found Exactly what I was looking for and confirmed my initial observation of the coin. Good Day Gentleman. "Walk swiftly and carry a big stick" |
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Maybe we have some definitional differences? Your original coin is a 1958 P and you've posted a link to a business strike 1958 D. Further, the coin linked to isn't a DDO, regardless of the mint difference, so I'm not sure what it's supposed to be proof of. You described your coin as showing "Beneath the letters slightly above the remnants of the previous strike are abundantly clear" and this makes me wonder if the difference between a doubled die and a double strike are clearly understood? In any event, I'm in agreement with both of the consensus opinions, namely the photos are too small (zooming is not a function of the photo hosting on this forum) and what can been seen on the photos provided looks like doubling due to a deteriorating die more than anything else. |
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Actually the PCGS coin linked IS a DDO, but it is the 'LIBERTY' that shown the doubling, not the IGWT which is DDD and it is on the linked coin as well ( DDD) I mean on the IGWT. You didn't bother to show us the liberty part. (Lets not even mention that you are trying to match a Philly coin to a Denver coin.) and I did try to zoom in on your first VERY tiny image before you changes it to the ones above. So lets keep the sharp statements out of the forum. |
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Thanks for the better photos. Unfortunately, we are going to continue to disagree. Although Dearborn pointed out that there is a DDO for the 1958 D LWC, I don't think the PCGS example you linked to is that DDO. (Here's a like showing the doubling on the 1958 D is very minor on the bottom of the B: https://doubleddie.com/809586.html ) In any event, I'm convinced that what you're seeing on the 1958 P coin you have is DDD. Check out the link below for some really good photos comparing DDD to true DDO on TRUST from Lincoln cents. Pay particular attention to the doubling on the U as it is almost exactly what you have. {FYI - cut and paste the entire link below into your browser for best results} https://web.archive.org/web/20090803155423/http://geocities.com/NCADD/educational3.html |
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