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1806 Traderbea Half Cent- Surprised It Received A Straight Grade.

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1806-Traderbea-Half-Cent--Surprised-It-Received-A-Straight-Grade.
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Surfaces look nice. Why are you surprised it straight graded?
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Also, I'm thinking you have a typo in the title that I'd like to fix. Do you mean "Draped Bust" rather than "Traderbea"? Thx for clarifying!
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numismatic student does the "A" in HALF look OK to you?

Spence I am guessing you don't recognize the "traderbea" insignia on the NGC label...


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I am guessing you don't recognize the "traderbea" insignia on the NGC label...


Ah yep just googled the name and found the store. Sorry about my confusion.
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does the "A" in HALF look OK to you?


It looks like raised metal from the pictures which would make it a die problem not any kind of damage. Even if it was a small bit of damage it wouldn't be enough to details an old 1/2 cent like that.
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It's a C-1, so it doesn't appear to be a die issue there. Likely some minor damage, but I don't think enough to warrant a details grade.
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I agree in the die, but actually false dies. The coin is one of the deceptive struck counterfeits still out there and passing as genuine. The TPG is aware.

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Thanks for making us aware of this counterfeit. My first impression was that it was a nice genuine coin. I appreciate the sharp eyes of those who weed out these fake coins. It requires a lot of study of the genuine articles to spot something like this. Good work!
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Wow, that is a really good counterfeit. Are there any other markers other than the damage at the A to indicate this is a fake?
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Thanks for the education Jack!
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Thanks for the education Jack!


Always nice to learn something!
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Let's goooooo!!! Nice catch!! That's a fun one. Did you purchase it?
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Thanks all; Zurie there are 4 main reverse markers as illustrated:

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Image is of a raw one on the Bay last week; I did actually purchase both!
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Thanks. Is that dot next to the U in UNITED always there, too?
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