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For Grading - 1945 Mercury Dime

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This Merc is graded by NGC at MS66. I'm more interested in hearing some opinions on what percentage of FB this coin has. The scratch you see across the neckline is on the holder. Thanks!


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Don't think I've ever rated a percentage on FB but this one looks 90%+. Very close but just short of FB. Still a very nice Merc.
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That is so close but I also feel it doesn't make it. 97%
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I have seen many Full Bands in holders that were less complete.
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So close. 98% ?
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Looks like big bucks HP. Can you share what you paid for it? 66 is about a $75 coin while 66FB is a $12K coin. This should have a premium for being so close.
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Just looking at the PCGS certified 1945 10˘ FB catalog, I would say most of those coins have similar tiny blemishes on the bands compared to this coin. Given the insane price hike, would this be worth cracking out for a fresh PCGS submit? I'm not advocating that, just asking the folks who would know.

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Thank you all for taking a look!


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66 is about a $75 coin


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would this be worth cracking out


I will take it to an upcoming coin show and let a few folks look at it.
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one must keep in mind that they would be using a 10x loop which would give you the look in the first reverse photo I believe. when you look at that, the very middle is not separated. They almost certainly know the difference in price with the designation and would scrutinize it more than just a quick glance before they found it split and more than one person would look at it.

with that said, if the coin was resubmitted, the worst that could happen would be it comes back in the same holder. personally based on the center of the band, it most likely not pull the designation, however due to the extreme price difference, i'd roll the dice on her

if you look at some of the coins on PCGS that pulled the designation, this one should. they have graded 18 with FB so it is a rare bird.

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...-10c-fb/5057

BTW - nice closeups
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I don't see much downside risk here. Slabbed or raw, if it isn't FB, you still will get back what you paid for the coin. The only real loss would be your TPG fee. With a big upside, this one may be the old baseball adage about trying to hit a curveball that's too near the strike zone: swing hard in case you hit it.
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Take a knife and finish the job!!!

Just kidding

The coin is so close to full bands, but doesn't quite get there. Not FB.

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I will take it to an upcoming coin show and let a few folks look at it.

If I were you, I would shop the coin around and try to sell to a dealer who thinks it has a chance. You may get a dealer wanting to pay a hefty premium so you make a good profit.
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here's a blowup of PCGS's example of the FB for 45.



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Take a knife and finish the job!!!

Just kidding

The coin is so close to full bands, but doesn't quite get there. Not FB.

LOL, that was my initial thought. Agree it is close, but not enough.
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I saw a merc dime in an AU-58 FB holder, but the coin was probably 20% full bands. Sent it back to PCGS as a mechanical error because the slab does not properly represent the coin.

@panzaldi's photo may be a consistent standard. If most are graded as such, it is certainly worth submitting back to PCGS and NGC at least a few times.
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@panzaldi's photo may be a consistent standard. If most are graded as such


there were a couple in all the coins listed that were similar with some type of small impingement.

i think its a no brainer to resub. post this one for sure if you do
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My own mental process here would be pure alpha and beta. A full bands designation is a 100-200x increase in value. There is plentiful evidence that this coin would be right on the line at PCGS, and could easily fall just slightly to either side of the line. Even if FB is only a 10% chance, if you gave me a chance to bet $100 on a 10% shot at $10000, I would mathematically take that chance without hesitation.

That's just the pure math. Subjectively—and purely from my own opinion—this dime has a more complete middle band than at least half the 1945 FB dimes published in that PCGS image catalog. Also subjectively, I think they are probably more generous with the FB designation for a Philly '45, in the same way that they are more generous with 1964 5˘ FS. Due to the money involved, I personally don't think it should be done that way, but the bias in scarce years is evident by almost every objective criteria.
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