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1857 Flying Eagle Cent Clashed With Seated Half Dollar

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 Posted 06/03/2009  11:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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 Posted 06/03/2009  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It must be so. Check this link to one that was sold is selling at a Bowers & Merena auction.
http://www.bowersandmerena.com/auct...g=&lotno=335

I bought some coins from this seller a few years back and it left a bad taste in my mouth. The coins were FINE. It was everything else that wasn't right. He prints his own postage and he short changed the USPO by 2 ounces worth of postage, even though they didn't catch it. He also neglected to insure it even though I paid for the insurance. Finally, he was one of those sellers that would never leave feedback for you until you left a positive for him, first. (In other words, he held YOUR feedback hostage)

I got my insurance back from him, but it was still a less-than-happy experience.

Geez...just think how long I'd bear a grudge if the coins had been bad!
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Yep--it's a very desirable FE variety. Here's one Rick Snow is offering:

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 Posted 06/03/2009  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How on earth does THAT (clashing with an entirely different denomination) happen?
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 Posted 06/03/2009  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
weerdsteev, just an FYI so you don't accuse any sellers falsely in the
future. Just because a package doesn't say it's insured, doesn't mean
it isn't. In fact, the USPS is about the only "insurance company" that
plasters "insured" all over the package (which is incredibly stoopid),
most others forbid you from marking it insured. Every package to and
from our house is insured through a policy underwriiten by Lourdes of
London, but you'll see no sign of that on any of them.
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 Posted 06/03/2009  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weedersteve, nobody is exactly sure...but the experts suspect there was confusing when changing out dies for other denomination runs.
In contrast to most US series, the hammer die for the FE was the reverse.
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I guess, but it sure seems strange.

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 Posted 06/03/2009  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bobby131313 - PM sent regarding insurance issue.
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 Posted 06/03/2009  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KurtS - Thanks, but wow... That's sort of like accidentally putting a motorcycle engine into a full-sized SUV, isn't it? I wonder if THAT guy got fired...?
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 Posted 06/03/2009  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weedersteev, there were 3 multidenominational clashes for the 1857, involving a Seated quarter,
seated half, and the obverse of a $20 gold coin.
Cool huh? Obviously a big slip up--but they may have not thought it mattered. The Mint wasn't
exactly a well-run affair in 1857, and nobody collected die varieties either.
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Hey, Suzuki put a motorcycle engine in a little utility vehicle once. Needless to say, it was a little weak.

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I'm guessing that they had really poor lighting back then...or that drinking on the job was encouraged...
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"Hey Silas, I'm bored. Let's see what happens when I do this."
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The multi-denominational clashes were probably the result of after hours unauthorized coining.
It was during this era (1857 to 1860) that the infamous "Midnight minters" were in operation
and all kinds of rare patterns, restrikes and fantasies were coming out of the mint through
the "back door".
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Conder, could be--that's one theory that may have happened considering the period.
And, Rick Snow provides another plausible scenario in his FE/IHC Red Book.
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