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Bedrock of the Community
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What would four yellow onions and a scrawny chicken get me?
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Pillar of the Community
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I read the whole article. That place legitimately sounds pretty awesome.
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I figured some of us could appreciate it.  |
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sounds like fun, just don't get into coin collecting there  |
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Pillar of the Community
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That is a place I could visit in a heartbeat. It sure sounds like a great formula for inner peace. Something this world could use more of.
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Pillar of the Community
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I was intrigued by the mention that it was an enclave for former Greek communists. I am a very capitalistic person. I also produce quite a bit of veggies, herbs, and traditional foods. People are always happy to accept gifts, especially of tomatoes and dried herbs. There are several family members and friends who will quite precociously ask when will be the next time that I make halupki and other ethnic dishes, even asking for extra helpings to freeze. To my recollection, essentially none of those people has ever offered to help me with anything or given any spontaneous gifts in my direction. Several others seem to regard me as their personal tech support.
The idea of a town where you would value the production of others, and trade with them fairly, sounds like a truly extraordinary place.
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Pillar of the Community
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I wonder what the tax authorities think  Actually, it wasn't so long ago that where I live (central Ohio) was a barter economy. When this was the frontier (1795-1820), you paid in wheat, corn, whiskey or pork more often than cash (which was in very short supply). Not quite sure how and when it evolved to a cash economy. |
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A model for society that I hope is revived on a larger scale. Far too much instant gratification needed nowadays, brought on by none other ... the Internet. Don't the Amish still have a bartering-type community? Quote:
I wonder what the tax authorities think You should do a quick Google search on the Greek Tax System and evasion. It is eye-opening and one of the reasons for the massive IMF bailout years ago. I swing a metal detector and have a knack for finding dirty old coins. Dirt coin restoration projects - https://www.prodetecting.com/restorationsDirt coin restoration blog - https://www.prodetecting.com/blog/ccawDirt coin dig videos - https://www.youtube.com/@prodetecting |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The 'instant gratification' condition predates the internet. I recall a middle school teacher grumbling about instant gratification back in the 1960s. Some family members who experienced the Great Depression first-hand had similar observations.
Just imagine what things will be like in 2100...
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That is a place I could visit in a heartbeat. It sure sounds like a great formula for inner peace. Something this world could use more of.  |
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I was intrigued by the mention that it was an enclave for former Greek communists...The idea of a town where you would value the production of others, and trade with them fairly, sounds like a truly extraordinary place. The problem with communism is scale—it usually works for smaller communities with adequate resources and a diverse labour pool. But trying to apply this formula to larger populations you get, well, we read the same history books.  Quote:
A model for society that I hope is revived on a larger scale. In my opinion, we will need to be post-scarcity for it to work, with virtually unlimited power and resources available to all. Think Star Trek and the UFP. When that happens, and money becomes meaningless, we will have to adapt/evolve. |
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I could be a bitcoin miner and barter bitcoin on the island!!!  Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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The problem with communism is scale—it usually works for smaller communities with adequate resources and a diverse labour pool. Well, it's worth pointing out that almost all archaic communities bartered between individuals. That's just trade, pre-coinage. It's probably not communism unless you are putting a majority of your output into the communal pot and letting it get distributed as the community sees fit. As a voluntary philosophy, I think it has merits. As you pointed out, at scale it's a bureaucratic disaster that inevitably results in oppression. |
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As a voluntary philosophy, I think it has merits. As you pointed out, at scale it's a bureaucratic disaster that inevitably results in oppression.  The key word here is voluntary.  |
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You should do a quick Google search on the Greek Tax System and evasion. It is eye-opening and one of the reasons for the massive IMF bailout years ago. Yep. I remember it well. But that probem mostly has to do with higer income types. Just like here. Still, I expect barter transactions are legally liable to taxation there, just as they are here. |
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