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1878 8TF Morgan Silver Dollar - You Vs. PCGS (Premium Edition)

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 Posted 08/29/2025  6:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add UnimpossibIe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello again all, I have an interesting Morgan for you today. PCGS just finished grading this one, I won't have it in hand until Monday so TrueView'll have to do for now. I'll post the results on Sunday, in the meantime all opinions are welcomed and appreciated:

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I am at MS-60. There's a lot of scratches and bag marks.
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I was leaning 61 or 2....thinking your photos are so good that their showing every little tick.....Let's play along and go with 62.
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I don't know - grading a True-View picture is like kissing your sister.
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Hummm. 8 Tail feathers, Unc Detail Scratch...
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too much light. TV photos are almost worthless to grade from especially if the surfaces have a PL or DMPL depth. deep mirror surfaces enhance all kinds of marks and scratches

the scratches at K7 and on the cheek look pretty heavy.

MS61/2 could be PL or DMPL.

do not post the grade when you repost until we see the coin in hand unless these photo are in-hand, I'm wondering if these are sellers photos or yours prior to submitting?
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 Posted 08/30/2025  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UnimpossibIe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just remembered that I did take a few pictures before sending it to PCGS. They're not the best, but I suppose they wouldn't hurt:

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Do I spy a first die pair VAM 9 in AU or better...
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Looking at the new pictures it looks Unc details cleaned. Looks like someone took a wire brush to it back when that was normal.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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@cboyera you are technically incorrect. But as far as PCGS and I are concerned, you got it.
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MS details, cleaned.
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With the new pics and the holiday weekend, I'm going to postpone the grade reveal until tomorrow. If anyone doesn't want to wait feel free to DM me. Everyone have a fun and safe Labor Day!
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I'm at Unc Details Cleaned
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not sure what you where attempting to show us on the last set of photos. watch your lighting. natural light is best. avoid overhead light

these photos are a good example as to how photos can alter the look of a coin. all 3 sets are different.

looking at all the scratches on the obv they almost all go diagonal from K8 to K2. I am typically not confused as to how this could occur without seeing any of them on the cap or hair area even when blowing up the photos. i'd like to see photos without any lighting (just the natural light in the room) to see if those marks cross over those devices

I'm at a low MS62 or UNC details (cleaned). leaning toward the later



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