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Statistics:I have begun the Dansco 7070 set with a few additions I am making along the way to personalize the set a bit. I will continue to post on this same thread for anyone who is interested in joining me on my quest. I began the set in June of 2009. Currently (06/10/2010) I have 41 coins (including 7 gold )= 43.6% of the set completed.
Original Post: After reading several threads on Dansco 7070 sets and the like I have decided to begin working on one for myself. I already have a few for the set that were already residing in my colection. I want to include the gold types as well.
I will not be placing them in a dansco book so I don't need to worry about each slot. Which coins would you include in a set that does not have a slot in the 7070?
Also, Would you reccomend starting with the high end expensive coins gold, seated-bust-trade dollars, ect....? Or would you save them until the end.
My worry with the gold type coins is if I wait to do the gold, and gold spot goes through the roof in the near future that could put a major damper in my effort.
What would you do?
Thanks for your opinion. Edited by cownas22 06/12/2010 12:47 am
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Gold type coins are a certain price and not priced according to the bullion price. Gold spot would have to go "through the roof" to affect the price of gold type coins.
If you're really worried about the bullion price, gold was down Friday and it's down again today. There's no way to predict gold, so I would say buy your coins when gold is down like this. It might go lower, but IMO it'll go higher before too long.
Edited by TonysPics 06/08/2009 7:47 pm
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What's worked for me is to buy the cheapest/higher mintages first and then when you see only a few more holes in your book (obviously the rarer/more expensive coins), you get the fever and save & scrimp until you can fill those holes. And then the satisfaction at seeing a completed set is amazing. I love it!
That's how I do it.
I also REALLY like have a place to put the coins, i.e., a book to save the coin type in. It makes a big difference to me. (A stack of slabs does not work for me). I like the display of a book.
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I'm going to answer this from a "if I were designing my own Dansco 7070, what would I add or drop". I'm not sure if that is what you are asking or not, but here goes. First off, I would add slots for the large diameter bust dimes and quarters (pre-1828). Not sure why they got left out. They are expensive, but not crazy expensive. The large bust quarter is one of my favorites - I have an 1825 even though it doesn't have a place in my Dansco. I would probably also add a slot for the no stars dime and Half Dime. It's pretty unique. At this point, you'll need to decide if you really want all types - and what counts as a type. For example, there's three different types of 3c silvers - but only one in the 7070. This seems fine to me. But then they have almost every variety of seated coin made. Do you really need a Seated dollar with and without the In God We Trust motto? There's a slot for a 90% silver Kennedy and a clad Kennedy but no 40% silver Kennedy. Where do you draw the line? I think Dansco did a decent job for the most part. I started my type set in airtites but it just became unmanageable and it was too difficult to display. So, I switched to the 7070 and accepted some of the deficiencies of it in trade for the nice presentation and organization. I have heard of people who create a custom album using either pages of 2x2's or airtites and labels. That might be a fun project for a later date. Good luck with your type set - I think you will really enjoy it! Ken
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KenKat, That is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for. Part of the reason for not using the 7070 book was that they left out coins like the pre1828 bust quarter. Not too worried about the silver 3c but may end up with all 3 types if the price is right, and of course I will include a 40% Kennedy, I just wouldn't feel right without it.
I am looking at making this a long term project and taking my time. I am also wanting to get the best grade I can afford so I will not be wanting to upgrade almost every coin down the road as a result of being hasty in wanting to get holes filled.
Anyone else?
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Here is my gold type page for the Dansco 7070. I agree that many important types have been left out, but also I like to have the presentation display of an album. Gold is the focus of my coin collection, so this was my compromise. I measured and used a hole punch to create 3 extra holes in the center of the album. The edges were a little wrinkled, so I glued some round blue leather like borders around the freshly cut holes. These holes are used to house the classic head quarter and half eagles, as well as a modern $5 commemorative. Now the other two missing types are the type 2 gold dollar and the $3 gold piece. Since they are expensive and highly counterfeited, I decided to leave them in the slabs. I velcroed the slabs to the outside area of the back 7070 cover in such a way that they are easy to remove to view the reverse, and then they reattach. When you open the album to the gold page, the page slides over and shows the slab coins side by side with the rest of the gold as shown. In order to make room for the slabs, I removed the modern dollar/bicentennial page, as modern dollars aren't really a part of what I want to collect. The rest of the pages are intact, and the album still closes nicely. To each there own, but this was my solution. :-)   
Edited by johnny54321 06/09/2009 3:57 pm
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The best way to assemble a Typeset is also the most expensive initially. Desirable coins appreciate in any market; the earlier you can acquire the more expensive examples, the better because they're not going to get any cheaper down the road. This is where you want to explore the nooks and crannies of online sales - many reputable dealers are just getting in touch with the concept of selling online, and their web presence is far smaller and less professional than their personal presence. As a result, the patient researcher can be rewarded with great deals. Which leads me to the second point, seemingly in contrast to the first - be patient. Establish your price/grade focus, and stick to it. No second thoughts. Don't grab the first thing you see in your target range - if you found that one so quickly, you gotta know there are more hiding under rocks elsewhere. The day will come, anyways, when you get hit by upgrade fever. The successful Typeset collector is able to put off that moment until after the set is complete. Third point, in contrast to the second (  ) - don't be afraid to snag an example which you know you can flip or trade at a profit. All the better if you already have an ebay presence. That will extend your reach, and maybe allow you to pry a desirable coin from the hands of someone who doesn't really want to sell, if you have something they want in trade.
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Tackle the hard stuff first and it'll just get easier after that. Why embark on a course where it becomes more and more difficult and puts "a major damper" on your effort?
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I did a Dansco 7070 several years ago and found it lacking for me. I found a series of Bowers and Merena Kingswood holders (made by capital plastice) that fit the bill just fine. These holders number 15 different ones and represent almost every type from 1793 up to around 1986. They display nicely and you can start and end with whatever era you want. I got mine off of ebay as a set. They are not being made anymore but sometimes show up on ebay. Here is a list of the holders. KW-1 1793-1799 copper and silver issues 16 openings KW-2 1800-1830 copper and silver issues 12 openings KW-3 1831-1850 copper and silver issues 13 openings KW-4 1851-1860 copper and silver issues 14 openings KW-5 1861-1890 copper and silver issues 19 openings KW-6 1901-1950 copper and silver issues 16 openings KW-7 1959-1979 copper, silver and clad issues 16 openings KW-8 1834-1900 gold types 14 openings KW-9 1901-1933 gold types 6 openings KW-10 1892-1925 commemorative types 16 openings KW-11 1926-1935 commemorative types 12 openings KW-12 1936 commemorative types 16 openings KW-13 1937-1984 commemorative types 9 openings KW-15 commerative gold types 13 openings I don't know what KW-14 was. I don't have it. As you can see these holders let you build as comprehensive a set as you like and display nicely. Here is an example of one of them.  I have completed all but the first one and the last one. Makes for a very nice type set. Gary
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That is very nice, I like it!  Care to share some more photos of them? 
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Very cool Gary. Where exactly do you keep these for display? Do they fit in a binder?
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I have also been working on a type set ever since I joined this forum. I am going to have to go against the wood grain(!) with all the other thoughts posted. From my own experiences and being that I am a newbie, initially I started with the less expensive coins and am glad I did. I bought a few overgraded duds and learned my lessons quickly. I dont plan to ever sell my type set so I am not overly conscerned about the appreciation now as I was when I first started. The most important thing for me now is the most quality for the money, I would rather have a very high quality expensive coin than a less quality expensive coin. Your eye for quality will only get better with time and purchases! Have fun and like all others said be patient make your type set yours and unique, a reflection of your interests!
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 I started out with the less expensive coins myself for the same reason. It's a lot cheaper to make a mistake when the coin in question costs $10 as opposed to several hundred. When I started my 7070 I figured it would take a couple years. I don't see the more expensive coins having a huge increase in price over that time. Due to budget constraints even if they did I would be buying some of the more expensive coins in the second year anyway.
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Holy cow, Gary - that is one heck of a beautiful collection!! I don't think I have ever seen such an extensive type collection - you've got them all in there - even the commemoratives. You have build something truly remarkable. 
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Thanks for the comments.
Gary
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