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1960 Roosevelt Dime Doubled Die - Counterfeit

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Something about how counterfeits are made seems to increase the likelihood of doubled dies. This one comes in at 2.46g and seems soft like lead but doesn't have the normal thud sound on a desktop that pure lead makes. Might try and get it under an XRF at some point.

Strong doubling shows clearly on LIBERTY, GOD and the date.

1960 Roosevelt dime double die - counterfeit


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Good grief, what a mess! I suppose that the margin was so slim with a faked dime that the counterfeiters had to cut every possible corner.
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Wow, that's such a mess. Very cool though.
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That does have odd looking texture to it but some fun doubling.

I don't know if I've ever seen a counterfeit Roosevelt.
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I have a number of counterfeit Roosevelt dimes, and yes, ya just gotta wonder how it's profitable to manufacture and distribute them.
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Profitability probably depends on where and when the fake dimes were manufactured. Fifty years ago, a dime bought a lot more, particularly in overseas U.S. territories. The counterfeits also might have had the advantage that they are tiny and thus much harder to inspect and detect than larger coins.
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Thanks! And yes, finally back. Got back from Antarctica about two weeks ago, the final trip for what has been a long year with a lot of work and vacation travel, considering I'm supposed to be retired. Will be around and checking the board and hopefully posting more again.
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Looks like it may be tin, that can be scratched with your fingernail like lead. Tin is usually a more silvery color, doesn't seem to oxidize to a dark gray like lead.
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Those weak details and pitted surface certainly do look like a fake, probably cast.
Any chance there is a casting sprew around the rim.Anywhere?
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Yes, really does seem cast, and hadn't considered tin as a possible base metal. The whole surface on the obverse just kinda screams cast, although no, there isn't any residue visible on the coin. The gouges on the reverse suggest that the original die/cast for making these had some issues.
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back @ TB - good to hear from you again.
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Fascinating piece, yes. If counterfeits could talk...
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How would you arrive at doubling if the piece were cast? I suppose the positive could have moved in the sand, but that would smear the details, not double them. Does the fake have well-defined reeds? I imagine that those would be harder to cast in a crude setup.

My first thought when I saw the coin is pewter, but I suppose that's basically the same as saying tin.
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Got back from Antarctica about two weeks ago


I'll assume that trip had nothing to do with bats.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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