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Hopefully I have these in the right order. I'm trying to show the "intended" look of the privy, followed by what it actually looks like, at least on the ones I have. My ranking would be Army, Marines, Navy. That Army seal was very ambitious and they got a super amount of detail in it. The Navy seal, in my opinion was not all that detailed of a design to begin with, and still they fumbled it, again on the one I have, anyways. Hardly any sign of the shield on the eagles breast. The Marine Corp EGA emblem, pretty ambitious. I'd say the Army seal has more going on in the design. I think they did a fine job conveying the globe with the continents visible and also the lines of latitude. Not really picking up on the Semper Fidelis on the ribbon in the eagles beak. But not a bad job. All images taken with the same camera setting and I tried getting the images down to about the same file size. I did do an opening video on my so-called YouTube channel, I'll post the link to that separately. EDIT added more of an official image of the USMC EGA emblem          Edited by Gilly
12/25/2025 9:11 pm
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looks about right.  |
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I don't think you can realistically compare a flat foil stamping with a low relief 3d representation.
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The US Army Privy:
. . US Army Emblem - The Head and the Tail of the eagle is a disaster!
The US Navy Privy:
. . Not the US Navy Emblem - No details, flat as a pancake!
The US Marine Privy:
. . US Marine Emblem - The bottom left section (anchor) looks like a reptile ready to eat the buzzard on top of a cracked egg.
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12/25/2025 7:29 pm
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Look how small the privy marks actually are - I say the detail of the marks are fine without having to pay a higher price for a different process to have them more detailed.
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I don't think you can realistically compare a flat foil stamping with a low relief 3d representation. Well sometimes I'm just seeing what'll stick. Went through all of the sets of images and added a somewhat official image of the seals of the 3 branches of the military, again just to show what they were trying to duplicate with the privy marks. Might look better than the images on the box. Still not 3D. Can't help that. |
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The US Army Privy:
. . US Army Emblem - The Head and the Tail of the eagle is a disaster!
The US Navy Privy:
. . Not the US Navy Emblem - No details, flat as a pancake!
The US Marine Privy:
. . US Marine Emblem - The bottom left section (anchor) looks like a reptile ready to eat the buzzard on top of a cracked egg. Army: I thought they did an admirable job conveying some detail to the eagle. In general I thought it was a good job considering the tiny size of the privy. Navy: That is the Navy emblem per what I find online, see the added image. I've seen another image of the Navy seal with a sailing ship instead of the rays extending upwards. If there are various official seals, I certainly can understand the Mint wanting to use this one. But by the same token, they did a really lousy job on that eagle and shield. Could just be my example. Marines: Is sort of between the 2 others. I think the globe is "fine" under magnification you can easily see the correct shape of the North and South American continents and the latitude lines. I wouldn't call it a broken egg. Agreed about the anchor detail not being very good, can hardly discern an anchor out of that. The eagle detail is somewhat there, way better than the Navy, not as good as the Army. Edited by Gilly
12/25/2025 9:25 pm
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In my opinion the privy marked coins are difficult to even see with my aging eyes. the only one I can really discern is the V75 issue yet it is smaller that the others because of less intricate detail of the privy mark. I'm just over the additional coin issues and will stick to the date, mint mark, and finish issues for my future purchases.
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The official US Navy Emblem.As a 6-year US Navy Sailor, I would think I would know my military emblem, Time for the mint to STOP adding privy, until they find a way to improve, they are ruining these coins.IMHO 
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I want to thank you for your service. I did further looking because I know this had been brought up before. I was just looking for further clarification and reasoning for why this privy was used. #1, this is the US Navy flag, as you have posted, same image:  #2, this is described as the "seal" for the Department of The Navy, note this is essentially the same center art as the flag, just stripped of the description around it and the ribbon added below it.  #3 Next is what was used for the privy mark, this that call the "emblem" of the US Navy. Not the Department of The Navy. Again if I were looking for an easier design to go with, this is a little less busy.  #4 I just wanted to show the imagery of the old US Navy emblem and also showing what is described as "child branches" of the Department of The Navy, the Navy itself, the Marine Corp, and the Coast Guard during time of war.  Edited by Gilly
12/26/2025 8:31 pm
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I want to thank you for your service. . . . .Thank you so much Gilly Honestly, during my tenure in the service, I don't recall ever seeing that other Micky Mouse Basic-looking Navy emblem. It could be because I spent all my service time on an Aircraft carrier, not at a Navy living base.. Side Note: Look at the privy on the Army coin and then check out the US Coast Guard flag..   This is how our Military Flags are presented at the President's Oval Office in Washington, DC...Edited by CoinForMe
12/26/2025 9:44 pm
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I looked in to the different Army insignias.
It's just as confusing as the Navy.
But similarity, comes down to insignia for the Department of the Army, The Seal of the US Board of War and Ordinance (huh?), and what's called the US Army Service Mark, that's what the Mint used and I have little doubt that, again, they used something appropriate "enough" and a little easier to make a tiny privy mark out of.
The (I guess) official "Institute of Heraldry" calls the same design "The United States Army Symbol", so they are even confused on what the same design is called.
This is really jumping down a rabbit hole.
I have a brother in law who was on the Hancock at the time of the fall of Saigon, when they were pushing Huey's in to the ocean to make room.
I also have a nephew who was on the Forrestal. "F.I.D"
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This is really something!
You can go to the official Institute of Heraldry site, go in to the "Navy" entries, and they don't even show the design The Mint used. Boy, somebody has to get everybody on the same page!
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Hello Gilly, Love your passion in Numismatics. We collect the American Silver Eagles Series, Mint Marked or Bullion or Both. I saw the " privy mark " ASE's as CoinForMe mentioned. His assessments on the ASE privy marks are Excellently worded and Accurate. IMO, They were the 2025 Disaster, as far as a World Class Mint's ability to produce Fine Detailed coins with legible designs , Terribly released . On ward as We approach the 250TH Anniversary of America, I hope the U S Mint takes note of Our views Towards producing better coinage in the Future. |
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Thank you for sharing. |
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