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Just came across this double, obverse, die dent. First die dent I've found on the obverse - so figured I'd share.    |
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very interesting! thanks for posting that.
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Hubbed In Debris? E&V  Some of these things seem so close! On one hand, seems like a die dent, because it goes "under" the coat collar. On the other hand, it goes "over" Jefferson's chin, like the H.I.D. example. So, honestly , I'm not sure! But, I think I'll go with the die dent.  Edited by snailking1
01/03/2026 9:21 pm
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Wouldn't you need to find two to confirm hubbed in debris?
Definitely interesting, those are rather large features. Good eye. =)
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Thank You, Brandmeister. Having just reread the description of H.I.D. a little slower  , would apparently need the following attribute to be considered H.I.D. Quote:
raised imperfection that continues from the field to the design with no loss of clarity or relief Since this does not go over Jefferson's coat, it therefore can't be H.I.D. |
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Wouldn't you need to find two to confirm hubbed in debris? 2 what? Quote:
Since this does not go over Jefferson's coat, it therefore can't be H.I.D. Well that seems plausible....... I'd go with some sort of die dent. Edited by Marv65
01/03/2026 11:52 pm
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Very interesting and cool! As far as what it is, others would know better than me.
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Thank You, Marv65 and Seeker_101
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Thank You for prompting me to re-look at error-ref
Each time I re-read a description, I have a little better understanding of what it means!
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Thank You for prompting me to re-look at error-ref
Each time I re-read a description, I have a little better understanding of what it means! You're welcome.  Quote:
Wouldn't you need to find two to confirm hubbed in debris? You mean two coins struck from the same die pair? Errers and Varietys.
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You mean two coins struck from the same die pair? That's what I originally thought but that makes no sense! You don't need 2 nickels struck from the same die pairs to prove a die dent so why would you need 2 to prove HID? |
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I may be out in left field here but I'm not so sure that this is not a counter clash. The location I am showing may not be right either, it may be from another spot but something to think about.  -makecents-
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That's what I originally thought but that makes no sense! You don't need 2 nickels struck from the same die pairs to prove a die dent so why would you need 2 to prove HID? Fair enough. My thinking was that hubbed debris would be present from the very start of the die and thus be easier to find multiple examples. A die dent happens during the usage cycle, so it might be harder to find repeat coins. |
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What's that bit over on Jefferson's chin? Is that also raised?
This has such a strange shape for a die dent. I can't quite see the counter clash theory, just because the shape doesn't quite seem to line up with the existing features.
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I'm not so sure that this is not a counter clash Hmmm....interesting! Location you showed looks close, but not quite (to me). I'll have to look at that possibility. Brandmeister; If you mean the spot on the lower anomaly between the black and green arrows, which sort of looks like doubling, that is the part of Jefferson's chin which normal. |
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I mean this:  |
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