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1889 $1 Morgan Dollar #17 - 4 Of 40

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$67. #3 of 40 acquired recently. Recently I purchased 40 slabbed Morgan dollars (36 ANACS, 3 PCGS and 1 ICG) and will post one a day alongside one Peace dollar. I paid an average of $67 for the 40 coins. This time I will post the grade of the coin 2 days after and this time we can compare our grades with those of TPGs. Thoughts? Thanks!
1889-$1-Morgan-Dollar-#17---4-Of-40
1889-$1-Morgan-Dollar-#17---4-Of-40
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 01/04/2026  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say MS-61. Lots of bag marks.
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 Posted 01/04/2026  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the wrong images got attached
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Thanks Eric. Updated the photos. Kindly assess again. Thanks!
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I see a 63
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With all the breaks in the luster on the high points, I'd be at AU-58. "Commercial Unc".
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This is a busy coin. I see fairly heavy die clashing, which could make this an interesting VAM. There is quite a bit of clash polishing and maybe some die pitting or a possible lamination, as well.

The obverse certainly suggests some circulation, especially in the hair above the ears and eyes and the bear claws, as well as the cheek. I'm not seeing as clear indicators of circulation on the reverse. You have the coin in hand, and will be better able to determine that. I also can't tell what is going on at the rim to the left of the "O" in ONE. That could be lighting or an indication of damage. There appears to be one fairly deep knock on the jaw.

All that said, if what is on the cheek is the result of a rusted/pitted die or a lamination, there aren't many contact marks on this coin apart from the deeper hit on the jaw. That would make it either AU-58 or MS-62. If those are contact marks on the cheek, it's either AU-58 or MS-61. PCGS details some coins with laminations using a 93 code, and I strongly disagree with PCGS on that issue, because grading should only reflect the state of preservation after the coin leaves the mint.

Bottom line, I can't make a call here between circulated and uncirculated on this coin and can't decide what is going on with the cheek (pitting? lamination? contact marks? combination of those?). My hunch is that the issue near ONE is lighting, rather than damage to the coin, so I'm disregarding that. IMHO it's either AU-58 or MS-61/62 depending on how those issues appear in hand.
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My first reaction was AU-58, but the reverse looks UNC. Will say MS-62
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 Posted 01/06/2026  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Frankly, I thought 62+. TPG thought otherwise... Maybe the scrape in the cheek?
1889-$1-Morgan-Dollar-#17---4-Of-40
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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late to the party but there is circulation on all of the highest devices

AU58
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