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Here is one that came in from ebay yesterday. Is that a little verdigris around the word "OF"? And just regarding Indian Heads. Isn't it kind of funny that they just put a war bonnet on Lady Liberty and called it an Indian Head. Though that is just how I am seeing it. I could be wrong. Either way, I've always loved the look of these coins. Edit - Figured out a better setting on my phone for pics. So updated pics.  Edited by VasoB 02/06/2026 7:28 pm
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I'd say AU-55, some wear mainly present on the reverse. Good luster.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm at AU. Wear is present on the reverse.
Errers and Varietys.
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AU details Questionable color (may be cleaned then retoning. The spots on the reverse are suspect)
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Quote: The front page coin on PCGS for this year is a pretty similar color. Is it the splotchiness of mine that makes it suspect? Well that cent from PCGS is Mint Luster showing. Yours is an off color with no mint Luster. Even though similar color there is totally different conditions of how the color came to be. The spots are a good tell of a previous previous cleaning of some sorts. The "blackish" areas are a possible sign too off what may have been cleaned off originally and it is coming back.
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Quote:Yours is an off color with no mint Luster. I guess I am confused at what luster is. Because when I move this coin in the light, there is a reflective area that kind of moves around the coin. The bright light I took those pics under kind of destroys that. But here is a photo that better shows it. Those light reflective areas move around the coin in the light. That isn't luster? Thanks again for bearing with me  . 
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Quote: there is a reflective area that kind of moves around the coin. Well first of all - we can only grade coins by the pictures you supply - none of us are clairvoyant (that I know of). And pictures should be taken from straight above the coin in question. Once you start angling the coin then the picture gets distorted. Don't get "light reflection" and "Mint luster" confused. Explaining the 2 with words is very hard to do (at least for me) - it's something you have to be shown in person and then learned that way to tell the difference. Or if there is actually an informational video floating around you can learn from instead of all of the opinionated ones that aren't worth a
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Quote: I guess I am confused at what luster is. Because when I move this coin in the light, there is a reflective area that kind of moves around the coin a lot of collectors are I think Marv pretty much covered what we are seeing. I'm also at AU questionable color or cleaned. the odd blotchy color, spotting and embedded grime in some of the device crevices especially on the reverse all point to that.
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Quote: Don't get "light reflection" and "Mint luster" confused. Thanks for the input. As always, I have some learning to do. Yeah, this thing reflects light all the way around. If it is angled, the whole thing shines. If I hold it flat in front of me, there are some sections that shine like in the pic I posted. Though I do see how it is different than some proof and uncirculated coins that I have. To me, it seems half way in between mint luster and no luster. That seems like it should be a thing. I can't imagine all coins lose their luster all at once. But maybe I am wrong there too! I guess a cleaning could do it, right? But there are zero hairline scratches on this coin to indicate rubbing of any kind. Maybe I will take it down to one of the local coin shops and see what they think and see if they can provide me an explanation. I actually used a little verdi-care on that dark spot on the front and it subsided quite nicely. I tried verdi-care, because under magnification I could see a couple green dots forming that I was thinking was verdigris. So I took a dab on a toothpick and just covered that area for a couple hours, and then rubbed at it a little with a toothpick. Much better.
Edited by VasoB 02/09/2026 12:52 pm
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Though it did occur to me, at Marv's nudging, that maybe I need to figure out a better way to take pics that is more representative of reality. Those first pics were under really bright, close LED lights. Here is what it looks like from straight above under regular lighting in my office.  
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Who did you buy it from ?
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Quote: Who did you buy it from ? This one was from Rechant Coins & Precious Metals out of West Palm Beach.
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Quote: I can't imagine all coins lose their luster all at once. thats correct. in fact you can still have original luster peaking through as low as XF45. you can play with this for better photos. your last set are still too much glare and shadows. you dont want to have any overhead light. 1. if coin is in holder, remove coin from holder if possible 2. turn off flash 3. place coin on flat surface with indirect natural light. maybe a window sill in a cloudy day. or better yet use 2 sets of lighting, one on either side to cancel each other out and avoid shadowing 4. Use a black or white background to avoid any reflective color 5. move phone about 3in from coin 6. zoom in using your fingers until the coin comes into focus and fills the cameras view finder. if your phone has a portrait selection use that and then press and hold on the coin in the view finder to AF lock it 7. hold phone steady. if you cant then place something on either side of the coin (like books) at that distance and lay phone between them. this will hold it steady and allow you to zoom and take the photo without any blurring
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Quote: you can play with this for better photos. Thanks panzaldi. I really appreciate that detailed reply and instructions. I will work at it and see what I can come up with. And I just got a new phone a couple of months ago, so I am still trying to learn how to best use that too. It is a Samsung S25 Edge, so it should be able to take pretty decent photos. But I see what you mean on that last set. And it looks grainy too, which it really shouldn't with this phone. I'll give it some practice.
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Lighting makes a big difference in what the coin really looks like compared to the photos. MS details, appears to have some environmental damage on the obverse rim at 2 O'Clock.
Edited by IndianGoldEagle 02/14/2026 1:33 pm
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