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Eye Training And Details Question - Is This Whizzed?

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This coin looks fairly similar to the 1857 I had posted for grading. It actually looks much more blatantly details grade to me than the one I have. You can clearly see all these fine lines all over it. It is in a slab with a "Surfaces smoothed - Details" designation. Is this the same thing as Whizzed, or is it another similar, yet different process?

They are trying to get $750. Based on what I heard from the community about mine, I would say that is probably far-fetched.


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The brush lines in different directions in the fields in field suggest that this coin has been whizzed.

Pity, it was a nice coin before the abuse.

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Sorry for the different tack, but almost all ancient coins have to be cleaned. after recovery from in ground burial.

Nevertheless, it is wrong for the coin pictured.
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"Surfaces smoothed - Details" designation.

I don't know about "Whizzed". But does look to have had the coin "worked on" somehow to remove some of the pits/nicks in the surface to make the coin look more of a higher grade.
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I would expect whizzing to mess up a copper or copper-alloy coin much more than one of silver, but there are techniques for retoning.

Sel's right in noticing the orientation of the lines towards the central devices. I can't tell if they overlap onto the eagle.

How fine were the brushes used for whizzing? It seems like it'd be difficult to do the work on such a small coin with an electric brush... but I've never actually seen one in person.

The cost (or value) to you should depend on the discount you personally apply to this sort of damage. Details coins have a pretty wide price range, as there's no "book value" that can cover all of them; they also tend to be much more difficult to sell. Personally, I think $750 would be a pretty good price... for an 1856.
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Thanks for the input guys. And the interesting bit about ancient coins Sel.

It really doesn't make sense to me to do this to a coin as nice as this. I mean, there is really very little wear on the eagle, if any. Maybe a little on the tail feathers. But I guess if someone isn't too familiar with numismatic standards, they might just do it to a random coin they had just to make it look "better." I'd bet many a coin have met their demise in this way.
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