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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thoughts? 
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 United States
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Wow - beautiful coin indeed. I'm going to suggest MS63 ... it could be a bit higher, an example I would treasure in my collection. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm going with MS-63.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
United States
558 Posts |
I'll say MS-62, there is some scratches on the back but I doubt pcgs would give unc details
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3622 Posts |
As I said on the your 1888 topic, I grade PCGS' True View photos at C+.  The 1864 is a tough date in a tough series. I see signs of light circulation here. There is luster in the protected areas, but it looks interrupted in the fields. There look like signs of light circulation on the cheek, lower curl, middle jewels, and hair above the eye on the obverse and on the bow ribbon and tips and highest points of the leaves on the reverse. There also appears to be an older cleaning, market acceptable. I'm at AU-58 here. Any 1864 is worth grabbing. There aren't a lot of the out there, and many (maybe most?) of the wartime dates are AU. I'd treat those dates like the Lafayette Dollar, where a nice AU is a very good catch. This is a very nice coin for the date. An AU-58+ is a rare bird, but this might be one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin looks slightly circulated
AU58
Maybe they market graded it higher?
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Edited by NumismaticsFTW 02/20/2026 1:40 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
55 sounds right.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36514 Posts |
Looks like some rub on the high points, AU-58.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2850 Posts |
This one got AU Details - Cleaned.
Edited by WheatBack 02/22/2026 8:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
877 Posts |
Did you buy it in a details holder?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2850 Posts |
I did not. I bought this raw.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3622 Posts |
This may be a coin to show around a bourse floor and see what others think with the coin in hand. What I saw - admittedly from the True View - looked market acceptable. If people seeing it in hand think it's market acceptable, maybe think about submitting this to a different TPG with a mid-AU and a straight grade as the floor. You might get a net grade, but any straight net grade would be better than a details designation. I'm confident it wouldn't drop below AU. This is a nice coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6381 Posts |
Looks nice to me. Any cleaning is very light and market-acceptable IMO. Definite signs of circulation but eye appeal is strong. AU-55 and a really desirable example.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2850 Posts |
It unfortunately has some minor hairlines on it. I bought it being okay if it got details, but was hoping they'd let it slide.  
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