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1941 Wheat Penny Doubled "Ty"?

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 Posted 06/17/2009  11:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Twangator to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good Morning to all, I found this Wheat penny in a stash of wheats that I had for a long time now. Can anyone help by identifiying what type of doubling this is? Is this Machine Doubling?
Things to notice:
On the word "LIBERTY"
"TY" doubled
"B" left bottom is chubbier than usual
"E" bottom left corner & top left corner looks doubled.
On the word "GOD"
"D" the bott of it looks round or doubled.
On the date
The 1 looks doubled
The 9 looks slightly doubled at the bottom.
The 4 top of it looks doubled and the left side looks doubled.
Please help.

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 Posted 06/17/2009  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Twangator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just noticed something, does the first 1 look smaller than the othe 1?

Does anyone have an idea what this is?
The Cherry Pickers Guide notes something like this but it has a double ear and truly I dont think this looks like it has a double ear.

Please help.
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 Posted 06/17/2009  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Twangator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone?
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 Posted 06/17/2009  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is beyond my expertise, but I wanted to post something so that you knew someone was watching!

I am sure the big-guns are busy.
But give them a few hours; they will show up!
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 Posted 06/17/2009  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Twangator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jbuck it gives me hope, I have been triying to find out what this is for sometime now and its killing me to find out.

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 Posted 06/17/2009  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mklpatrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm surprised Thad has not jumped in on this one yet. I'm interested to see what others think as well.
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 Posted 06/18/2009  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cpfull to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am far from an expert, but I THINK the ty of liberty may be something. but I can't tell anything from the rest. The top of the 4 may be a master hub defect, I remember reading about it somewhere and in Charles's book, "looking through lincoln cents" he shows an image of a 41 d rpm where the 4 looks the same as yours. Just remember I have often been wrong and will surely be again.
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 Posted 06/18/2009  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Twangator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you cpfull, this is a p mint mark so that makes this coin so weird. I did see that there is a 1941p DDO type 1 and 2 but it does not match either.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN IDEA?
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 Posted 06/18/2009  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
twangator, I don't see anything that would lead me to believe there is and doubling. I see post mint damage, Die Deterioration and probably Machine Doubling but wait until coppercoins, coop or some of the others look at it. I don't see anything that looks like device spread or separation.

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Thank you cpfull, this is a p mint mark so that makes this coin so weird. I did see that there is a 1941p DDO type 1 and 2 but it does not match either.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN IDEA?
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 Posted 06/22/2009  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Twangator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you to all. I guess this is not what I thought it was (a doubled die).
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 Posted 06/25/2009  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Twangator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, I guess I'm desperate now because I cant find and answer to this coin. I have been going around in circles triying to find out what this is. So I'm triying to call out to Badthad, copper coins or Coop, if anyone knows where they are at send them my way, I would love to hear what they think about this.

Thanx.
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 Posted 06/25/2009  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This needs to be on the 'Variety and Error' section.
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 Posted 06/25/2009  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The TY from what I see is Machine Doubling. no premium as far as I know. good photo's though
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 Posted 06/25/2009  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Gary on this one. Looks like Machine Doubling on the TY. Certain areas of a Machine Doubling happen differently from coin to coin. On a doubled die, something is doubled. If you note the size of the devices to another normal coin, they are the same size and sometimes thinner than normal. On a doubled die the spread makes the devices wider/taller/doubled. So being also circulated that beats a coin up and makes the devices look wider, so you have to consider how it was doubled. Hub doubled, machine doubled or made wider from circulation. The first one is the one with a premium. Check out the tag below on coppercoins and note the affect the hub doubling makes on those doubled dies.
http://coppercoins.com/diesearch.ph...pe=do&page=0
There are over 30 different ones to look at.
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Another vote for MD.
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