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Hi everybody. New to your community. I would like to ask all of you if any 40 percent silver copper 1964, or any 1965 90 percent silver transitional Kennedy half dollars really exhist or are known? I read that there is supposed to be at least one 1964 on a 1965 planchet. Does it really exhist? And how about the visa versa, 65 on 64? If they are real, are there any pics available? And if so, what would they be worth? Any thoughts? Guesses work just fine. thanx...Gusp |
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thanx metalman. As a curisoty doesn't the 43 copper sell for more than the 44 steel cent? Which would really be worth more, 1964 first year issue coin with 40 percent silver when all coins were silver, or a 1965 silver when some coins still had silver, namely the kennedy? All in good fun. Either would be good. Thanx again.
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Gusp
Since its all speculation and Idle conversation, I still think the one that would be the more valueable error of the Kennedies that we have as a target here would be the 40% er on the 90% planchet.
the 64 on 65 planchet would the wrong date on the right planchet for the year,, but the 65 on a 90% planchet would be the right date on the wrong planchet, to me this would be the true wrong planchet error .
Rick
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Hi Gusp Welcome to the forum !! I have heard the rumors, have never seen any pics or anything conclusive of the existence of these wrong planchet errors for the Kennedy half series. If authenticity of such an error could be established, my guess at value would be in the several tens of thousands of doallrs, for the 65 struck on a 90% 64 planchet,, not quite as dramatic for the 64 struck on a clad planchet but still a coin such as this would command a very healthy amount. Rick This post is out of order ,, should be 1st reply post , Edited to combine double thread .Edited by Metalman
04/22/2006 11:58 pm
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OK, this is fun. Agree on planchet, sorta, cuz the 64 is the right date for the year..1964 on the wrong metal 1965. Unless the 64 coin wasnt made in 1964 but..coudnt the 64 on 65 be a trial piece, or perhaps an experimental piece, or possibly a mule, or in effect a pattern preceeding the upcomming new years change? Regardless, I have never seen either one for sale. What a pair that would make. The silver 65 would be a monster because if for no other reason than the fact that it is silver. Thanx for the bright thoughts. gusp
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The '64 and '65 coins were struck at the same time in Philly and Denver. San Francisco was striking only '65 issues so only Denver was using a mint mark. There were two date freezes in effect. Initially it was believed that collectors were causing the coin shortage so the '64 date was frozen but this was ineffective so the coinage act of 1965 was passed in mid-1965 and clads went into production in August. These would maintain there date indefinitely as first envisioned and they would circulate with the silver coins forever. There were 1964 dated silver coins being struck well into 1966 as well as 1965 clads.
There are numerous examples of '65 issues in silver and some '64 issues on clad. There is a lone '64 clad quarter. The half dollars are more problematical; There are rumors of '64-D's on 40% clad but I've never seen one. I don't think the Philly mint even made half dollars after 1964 but I'd have to check the mint report.
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Very good CladKing. Keeps it interesting. Have been out for a few years and am rusty. Kinda remember when this was going on but it was a ways back. So, I guess the silver ones are D mint? How about this? Are the 65 silvers business strikes or sms? Now that would be even more fun. Didnt Philidelphia send the dies to the other branch mints where they then punched the mintmarks? I wonder if the silvers are different. Dont the business strikes have different rims than the sms strikes. Wonder if anybody checked the silvers. And of course, visa versa with the clad. So it appears that the clad would be the first of the new series coinage not 90-10 silver, lasting a few years with the 60-40 reduced silver content, untill going without any. The silvers would be the last of the silver kennedys, a one year run for this coin, and signifing the end of silver coinage in circulation. Indeed very special pieces and an important part of modern coinage history. Fun to all, and thanx...Gusp
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If there are transitionals for the Kennedys the 90% coins would almost certaiinly be D-mint and not SMS. You're correct that the dies were made in Philly and shipped. Of course there were no mint marks on '65 dated coins but all the SMS's were produced in San Francisco and the regular issues in San Francisco and in Denver. Most if not all of the San Francisco coins were likely struck from retired SMS dies. 1964 coins struck in 40% might have been struck in Philly or Denver. It's unlikely San Francisco minted any coins in '64 or ever had any dies for '64 coinage. Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Excellent reply. So how about the 64 d clad winding up on both types of hubs. I have headed out to SF and on ocassion gotten confused and ender up in Denver, and visa versa,.. maybe a die got lose. Remote, but possible. So that would be a serious rarity.. Thanx. gusp
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Originally posted by gusp
Excellent reply. So how about the 64 d clad winding up on both...
This seems the more likely; a '64-d with mint mark on a 40% planchet but it is the 90% 1965 of which one hears the most rumors. There are also rumors of a '71-D on 40% and there are known '77 issues on 40% planchets that were intended for the bicentennial halfs. Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Cladking. To be sure. Know about any fakes....gusp
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