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ID Coat Of Arms - Guernsey And England

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I noticed the coat of arms is different from other UK coins. What is it? looks like three lions in a row? Thanks!


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ID-Coat-Of-Arms---Guernsey-And-England

ID-Coat-Of-Arms---Guernsey-And-England

ID-Coat-Of-Arms---Guernsey-And-England

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It is the coat of arms of the Bailiwick of Guernsey, an island and British dependency of the coast of France.
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G'day, I may have to stand corrected, but I think the bronze one is Guernsey, one of the Channel Islands, also known as "S'Ballivie Insule de Gernereve": see -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey_pound
the other side seems to be a windmill.

the bottom one is an English coat of arms, that is, England, as opposed to the United Kingdom.
For a long time, there were two types of shilling: English & Scots.
You'll see the three lions (some people say that they are leopards) on a lot of English sports teams' badges.

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Peter you are correct on the second one. I only Identified the first and completely missed the second.
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Thanks Peter Thomas and Echizento. The Wikipedia link was incredibly detailed and quite informative.

As a coin collector, should these coins be included with UK coins or in a separate coin album for the channel islands. Its surprising that Guernsey is very near France rather than UK! and only has 66,000 people as of 2008!

comments appreciated! don't know ehere to catalog these coins. thanks!
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The top coin is from Guernsey; Guernsey is usually considered a separate country. The bottom coin is from Great Britain.

The three leopards are the English shield. These arms are derived from the two-leopard shield of the old Duchy of Normandy, the old French duchy the English monarchs originally came from back in 1066.

The Channel Islands (Guernsey, Jersey and other nearby islands) are the last remaining remnants of the Duchy of Normandy still ruled by the English monarch. As such, the islanders don't consider themselves as "part of Britain" or "British colonists". Rather, they see Britain as being conquered territory their monarch rules over!

As for the lion/leopard thing: it's a technical definition. In heraldry, a "lion" is standing on two legs; a "leopard" is walking on all four.
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For coin collecting purposes they are listed separately in Krause as are Jersey and the Isle of Man.
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That is really great info thanks Sap! Country of only 66,ooo people, that's even less than a suburb in asia!

Thanks thai-vic!
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G'day,
I've never been there, so this is second-hand information.
Further to Sap's comments, I gather that in the Channel Islands, the lady that the rest of us call "The Queen", is called "The Duchess".
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Duchess? Seems very disrespectful. It's a title usually reserved for the landlady of the local.
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