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Is This Struck Through Something

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 Posted 09/13/2009  3:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add joe finds to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
can we clear this one up with grease or weak strike?
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 Posted 09/14/2009  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeThePenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it might be a Grease Filled Die.
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 Posted 09/14/2009  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking,Alot of gre ASE
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 Posted 09/14/2009  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely grease. Notice the full bold rim. If it was a weak enough strike not to bring up all that missing detail, the rim would not be struck up full and strong either since the relief of the rim is much higher than that of the lettering.
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 Posted 09/14/2009  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Siuol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with everyone else. Nice find .
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 Posted 09/14/2009  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct logic of everyone and Conder hit it on the head. The edge of the die was pressed onto the planchet through heavy grease leaving weaker devices in certain areas. Here is a Heavy grease coin and a trial strike coin. Note the missing edge on the trial strike coin.
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 Posted 09/16/2009  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The terms "trial strike", "die trial", "die adjustment strike", and "set-up piece" are all untenable and represent wishful thinking. Unless you were there to witness the strike, there is no way to determine the cause of the weakness. My studies of multi-error weak strikes, the distribution of weak strikes among different denominations, and the relative strength of these strikes indicate that the vast majority are the product of spontaneous equipment malfunction. It's also clear that the majority owe their appearance to excessive minimum die clearance (insufficient die approximation). The dies either fall out of adjustment or something interferes with normal die approximation. These malfunctions sometimes occur quite suddenly, are often short-lived, and sometimes correct themselves spontaneously.
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 Posted 09/16/2009  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that information Mike. I've never considered that before. So toss the term trial strike? If you say yes, I'll change the image. I was trying to show that a grease filled strike will show the dies outside edge on the struck coin and an "insufficient die approximation" would not show this area of the die.
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The best term to use for coins like your quarter is something non-specific, like "weak strike" or "low-pressure strike".
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 Posted 09/16/2009  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike for the clarification.
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