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Old Blue Whitman Albums

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 Posted 05/19/2006  12:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add texasmick to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have bought a few used coin albums from a local dealer. They're blue--Whitman, I think. This type of album has plastic sliders on both sides of the page so you can see obverse and reverse (I think that is what distinguishes an album from a folder).

They appear to be from the 60's. The quarter album in particular has labels for 1963, but not for 1964 (but plenty of empty slots at the end).

Anyway, my reason for writing is that I was looking for advice as to whether these are safe for my coins. I realize that there have been some impressive advances in technology (e.g., sulphurless cardboard and PVCless plastic) since then. What is the consensus on storing coins in albums this old?

nb, I'm not puting any really valuable coins in these, but I don't want to be irresponsible with any of my treasures.

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I would think that having plastic sliders is ok. I'll let someone with experience with them answer that. I would avoid the kind that you just pop in the coin. 1) You can't see both sides of the coin and 2) They do not retain their color 3) They will retain moisture and the coins can turn green on the edges (especially in humid climates). Now, I'm talking coins that stay in them for years.

I have a question...I have a 1970 and 1980 Whitman Coin Value Book - any value to them? I've looked in the back of the new Whitman Price Guide, but wondered if there really is a true market for them. If anyone wants to know the value of their coins in those years, just let me know. It's very interesting!
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 Posted 05/19/2006  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffaloboy5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have one of those for nickels but its 1995 so I guess its different than yours
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 Posted 06/18/2006  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FYI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
my coin dealer uses these for his dimes. there is not a blemish or scratch on a single one, and he has had sme for years!
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I just counted mine ---- from the 1960's!

I have 24 folders, including four for English large pennies, and 10 albums.

I still have coins in the albums, including some Kennedy half dollars. All coins look fine, even after 40 years!
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The only thing to be careful with is sliding the plactic covers into place,, they have been know to scratch the coins.

I have lincoln sets that have been stored in the original whitmans for years, and they look fine, storage is the main thing after the coins are in the albums,folders, even temperatures with low humidity,, and silica packs.

I have considered upgrading to the one that allow both sides of the coin to be seen,, but have not done it yet,, and I may not.

The coins that I look at are in airtites.

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I made the hefty original upfront investment of about $250 or so to buy all the whitman folders of coins that I plan to collect in the immediate future. As I get coins of types that I dont have folders for, I go ahead and purchase those. They look so very nice, and do seem to keep your coins pretty safe. I just ordered a large amount of proof coins that I plan to CAREFULLY place into those folders next week. I hope that goes well.

One thing I've noticed about the folders, is that you have to be extremely careful when removing coins from them, as you can loosen the slot into which they fit. If that slot gets too loose, your coin will not fit snugly anymore, and will fall through to the bottom of the hole and slide around, even underneath the leather, and move to other slots.
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 Posted 06/19/2006  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with metal man watch sliding the plastic, I have seen and have both whitman albums that are good and some that have allowd toning to occur, Wate ramond are very old folders older that whitman and will really tone your coins, If you can for your better coins try Dansco they are a little pricey but hold your collection hansomely and protect them well
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 Posted 06/19/2006  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffaloboy5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it a good idea to keep your coins in a box that has velvat liner in the inside because I was thinking of buying one of those
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 Posted 06/25/2006  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have some older whitmans for sale or trade if anyone is interested
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Those albums are nice but if you're the type that likes to take your coins out and show them off I wouldn't use the Whitman classics or Dansco. If you slide the plastic across the coins a few times it'll create rub on the coins, thus lowering the grade. As far as I know there's no album that will completely stop toning. The biggest concern with storage albums is that you want to be sure the plastic is inert...i.e. NO PVC. That's the real killer.
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Scoutjim, I moved your post to the Sell section as it was more appropriate there. If you are also willing to trade, you may want to make a similar post in the Trade section.
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Texasmick does it say National or National Coin Album anywhere on your album? I'm curious since I've never seen one of them but they were sold by Wayte Ramond under that brand, at least originally, and sold through Whitman Publishing which at the time was also own by Raymond.
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No, longnine, just Whitman. The Franklin album is #9425.
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longnine I have Wayte Raymond standing liberty Quartere album Light green in color is that something you know much about.. Any info would be apppreciated . I have been told that they are collected and are worth a little coin is that true
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quote:
Originally posted by scoutjim99

longnine I have Wayte Raymond standing liberty Quartere album Light green in color is that something you know much about.. Any info would be apppreciated . I have been told that they are collected and are worth a little coin is that true



Only that Ramond produced them in the 30's after buying the patent to them and sold them through Whitman under the brand name National. Then Whitman was purchased by Western Publishing. They supposedly are the reason the term "slider" was invented. You know, it can't possibly be a VF it just has some slide rubs on the high points.

I've heard also that they are collected and I would *guess* they are worth some money for the Ramond name but I don't know how much. Wayte Ramond was quite the dealer in his day. At one time he was a partner with B. Max Mehl, then General Manager for Scott's and at another time the major buyer for Col. Green of "I gots all five 1913 Lib nickels" fame.
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