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 Posted 11/22/2009  3:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add furmacs to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked up a slabbed XF-40 1889 CC Morgan at an Estate Sale. How can I tell if this is real or not? It was graded by the North West Grading Corporation--I never heard of it. I did a search and found nothing. Has the name changed? Would anyone like to see pictures? Thank you for your help.
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I would crack the slab and send coin to a known grading company.
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 Posted 11/22/2009  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You will find all the help you need here!
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Yes, please take high quality photos! A lot of money is at stake for a coin like this.
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Pictures of the whole slab as well. I know about NWGS but I'm not sureif I have an example of their slab or not. They were not around very long.
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I cannot upload photos due to the size limitations. I can sent the phtos to anyone who wants them. Any suggestions? I need help since I am disputing the charge with my credit card company...

I have a picture of a 1.) suspicious mark on the eagle breast, 2.) the Liberty Banner is not raised, 3.) a gate mark, and 4.) a weird crack on the back of the coin.
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You can use Picasa 3 to resize the pictures.
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I will email you to the address you used when signing up at the forum and you can just reply to that email and attach the pictures and I will resize them and upload them for you. Please do not resize them before sending I will do all that when I get them
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ok I sent the pictures. from some of the markings, I know the coin is a fake. What do I need to do so I cant get the credit card company to believe me?


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by looking at the denticles I do not believe it is authentic either, especially the last picture
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I believe it is a replica too, date looks off. Hope you didn't pay much...
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Serifs on mm are missing and the denticles are wrong as well.
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If anyone would care to help me out here I would appreciate it. I have reported the incident to local authorities, but I do not have the coin in my possession--I returned it to the seller. My CC company and the seller are fighting it out now. It is a long story and I will share it if someone would can email me. Thank you everyone.
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but I do not have the coin in my possession--I returned it to the seller.


It will therefore be impossible for you to prove it's a fake, so that angle is out of play. Your best bet for the CC company is to prove the seller received the coin back, and you're therefore entitled to a refund.

You did have the return shipment tracked, right?
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