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What Does This Mean "Improperly Cleaned"

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I was think about purchasing this coin but was confused by what that meant, did they improperly clean it or did the owner?



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It means that somebody improperly cleaned the coin at some point before it was submitted for grading. (this is why the statement "DO Not Clean Your Coins" can't be said enough!
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Ok, that is what I thought but wasn't for sure do to the fake NGC look, I still might buy it because of its reasonable price
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That's not a "fake NGC" look; NCS is a subsidiary of NGC. NCS slabs coins which are not qualified for an NGC slab due to cleaning or alteration. I wouldn't go much over $25 for that coin.
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would $50 be to much for it, I guess you learn something everyday, does PCGS have an alternitive name for cleaned and alteration coins?
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RedBook values problem free versions of that coin at $80 in VF condition. So I wouldn't consider $50 for a cleaned coin to be an especially good value. In the long run you would probably be better off spending a little more for one without problems.
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does PCGS have an alternitive name for cleaned and alteration coins?


PCGS has only recently started slabbing "problem" coins in this fashion. Their slabs are labeled "Genuine" instead of a grade for coins like this.
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PCGS states these coins are genuine only, non-gradable which I don't agree with but PCGS isn't my company :-(
I agree, $25, $30 tops for that guy ;-)
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