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More Unc Morgans For Your Grading Pleasure.

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 Posted 05/23/2006  9:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is a few Morgans for grading. The first 5 appear proof like. The last one just have a very attractive tone that cannot really be seen. It is orange and sea-green.

So just wondering what you think about the grades... if any of them are worth slabbing.
Thanks for your time!
Jordan

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 Posted 05/23/2006  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coins. I espeacily like the toned one. You can see the toning from the pictures. Beautiful coins
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 Posted 05/23/2006  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And with #500, my contest will count the closing of NY Silver Tomorrow...

The toning shows up a little on here, but is very pleasing in person.

Some of them also seem to have some "noise" that isn't really there.
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 Posted 05/23/2006  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coins.
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 Posted 05/23/2006  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jordan, I haven't looked at the others' responses yet so as not to be influenced, but I'm not comfortable grading a Morgan as prooflike without having it in hand; there's too many subtleties in the sharpness of a strike that need to be examined under magnification.

The luster on all these Morgans is almost too much in the images and there's a little blurring on the 1879S Morgans most critical attributes: the feathers on the arrows on the reverse. The top two 79S's appear to me to be Reverse of 78 with Parallel Arrow Feathers (PAF) while the third 79S appears to be Reverse of 79 with Straight Arrow Feathers (SAF). I may be all wet on these variety attributions since the reflections due to the luster may be fooling me, but the two 79S's with Reverse of 78 are considerably more valuable than the 79S with Rev of 79, especially in Mint State. I'll leave it up to you to determine if they are PAF or SAF since they really needs to be examined in hand. Also, the mint marks are a little fuzzy on some of them, but they appear to be as labeled below.

I also think the images are doing an injustice to these beautiful Morgans because I think they are adding imperfections which are not there, but here goes my guesses based on the images:

1. 79S rev of 78 MS-62
2. 79S rev of 78 MS-62
3. 79S rev of 79 MS-63
4. 81S MS-62/63. Nice toning.
5. 87 MS-64/65
6. 99O MS-62/63.

If I'm anywhere in the ballpark on these guesses, I'd say the first two are absolutely worth grading if they are, in fact Reverse of 78's.
The toning would add value in my opinion since I like toned Morgans, but some Morgan collectors don't like toning. From the images, the 81S has the nicest toning (they all look a little toned except the 87, but that might be a function of the lighting); the 81S might even have Deep Mirror characteristics. In value, if I'm somewhat close to the mark, the latter four are probably worth it to get professionally graded although it is a toss-up since grading costs could be half the value of each (VERY roughly $50 each); a benefit-cost analysis would depend upon how much you paid for them, how much you are willing to spend to have them graded and slabbed, and the actual grades which come back. In any instance, having them graded by a top TPG would enhance their salability and secure you top dollar in the event you wish to sell them. Raw, they would fetch maybe at best only half or less of their "book value". If it were me, I'd get them slabbed and let the chips fall where they may.

Now to see what the others say.

Fred
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 Posted 05/23/2006  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, nuts, I thought there'd be a couple others who wanted to take a stab at their grades. We'll see what others say; I subscribed to this thread for follow-up, but I may be offline for a couple days or so.

Very nice coins in any instance. Ah, there's nothing so beautiful as Lady Liberty on a shiny Morgan! I wish time travel were possible so I could go back to the mints and hold each Morgan while they were still warm from the stamping.

Fred
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 Posted 05/24/2006  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was going to ask for better pictures of the tail feathers on the 79-s's before I gave a grade because I cant tell if ther are reverse of 78 or not, but if they are as morgan fred has stated (which I dont doubt) then those may be worth slabbing because in MS-63 condition its about a 350.00 coin. So can you please zero in on the feathers of the arrows on the 79-s coins ple ASE
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 Posted 05/24/2006  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Bryan1315

I was going to ask for better pictures of the tail feathers on the 79-s's before I gave a grade because I cant tell if ther are reverse of 78 or not, but if they are as morgan fred has stated (which I dont doubt) then those may be worth slabbing because in MS-63 condition its about a 350.00 coin. So can you please zero in on the feathers of the arrows on the 79-s coins please


I agree with Bryan,I can't tell from the pictures if the 79's are reverse 78's or not. Also there seems to be a mark like + above the D on the reverse of the 1887? Can you tell what that is or are my eyes really bad.
All beautiful Morgans.
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 Posted 05/24/2006  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, they are not reverse of 78. The all have the arrow going up.
I will try to get a little better pictures later on. I see that - you are talking about on the 87. I will check once I get back to the coins as to what that could be.
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