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Anyone Remember My Fathers 1909 S VDB?

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A couple of months ago, a few of you mentioned that I should get it slabbed. It came back today...



No grade, but it is genuine. I was forewarned that it probably wouldn't receive a grade. Having it authenticated was my main goal.


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Just a quick note of thanks to those of you for your help.

Scott
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Always good news to hear that one of these key date coins has been deemed authentic.
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I'm trying to figure out where the damage is? Enviro? Looks to be mid AU level. PCGS though ;-)
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I couldn't say vermontensium, I was told that it showed some evidence of a light cleaning. I'm tickled that it's "real"...

I'm trying to figure out a way to hang it on the Christmas tree...



Christmas came early for me!
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I don't know what PCGS was thinking that day. There is no signs of a cleaning IMO. Hang it on my tree anytime!
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I cant see the damage either, looks really nice. For those that dont know the genuine codes:

82 Filed Rims
83 Peeling Lamination
84 Holed and Plugged
90 Not Genuine
91 Questionable Color
92 Cleaning
93 Planchet Flaw
94 Altered Surfaces
95 Scratch / Rim Dent
97 Environmental Damage
98 Damage
99 PVC Residue
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99 and 93 they send back body-bagged I believe. They won't holder em.
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Sooo ... by ceaton checklist .... PCGS coin 2426 is the 1909-s VDB ... and the following 98 means 'damaged'

Where is the damage? Rim perhaps?

Anyways .... great to have an old classic come back as genuine.

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I don't remember the original post, give me a link. I see some corrosion around the chin area. I would have conserved the coin before submission to PCGS. Coin looks to be EF or better based on the reverse. I don't see the damage in the pictures. What I see is some light environmental damage.


If you're not comfortable doing the conservation yourself....and most wouldn't be on a coin like this. I'd send it to NCS, it's WELL worth the small fee.
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I revise my grade to VF30. It looks much higher in that slabby.
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I remember your OP now. This was one that looked like a split grade of obverse - 15 and reverse 30.

Probably could grade VF20 since split grades are rare today. I don't see the damage but it is likely environmental.
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I remember it too now, thanks wheatguy.

After seen the second set of pictures...they are better than the first set...it looks like a very nice coin to me.

Don't give up hope! This is one you just have to see in person. There must be something about the luster under the brown because I'm not seeing damage. I also revise my grade because the reverse is so nice on this coin (VF-35). VF-20/25 because the obverse is so weak. I don't even care about the technical lack of cheek and jaw separation so much, I love the reverse!

What do you see in hand scotty when you look at the coin in hand? Tilt and rotate the coin. Can you see flat luster, hair lines (with 8-10x), corrosion, deep scratches? Do you have a dealer you can take it to for an examination? If it was my coin, I'd consult a dealer then I'd submit to NGC next to see what they say. Then, lastly, I'd go to ANACS, they will grade it and slab it.
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If you ever want to sell it you may want to crack the slab and send it in again (maybe to NGC or another TPG), because if the cleaning isn't obvious then there is a chance that it was simply someone's opinion. You may get lucky and get a grade and no cleaning notation. But for now, knowing it is a real one should suffice!
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But for now, knowing it is a real one should suffice!
I agree. It is your coin, enjoy it!
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What do you see in hand scotty when you look at the coin in hand? Tilt and rotate the coin. Can you see flat luster, hair lines (with 8-10x), corrosion, deep scratches?


Under my magnifying glass, I don't see any corrosion or deep scratches. Tilting it, I do see some "scratches/lines" that run through the forehead...at about 160-170 degrees.

All my pics are coming from a 6.0 Sony cybershot, in the ISO mode. I gotta get me a loupe, and start practicing with it. lol

(you'd think that a guy that works in the optical-industry would have better equipment to work with eh?)


Knowing that it's genuine is enough for me for now. I'll order a loupe tomorrow...when it comes in, I'll try and get some more pics to share.

Thanks again to everyone, for your wisdom and help.

Scott
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