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Valued Member
United States
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Hello, In a previous post I brought up how I was worried about not remembering what I paid for a coin. see https://goccf.com/t/59156&whichpage=2This bothers me but should it? One poster called me compulsive and hit the nail on the head, is that just me or have others experienced that? I'm not going to be selling the coins tomorrow or anytime soon and if and when I do the market changes so much what is it going to matter anyway? My coins are all annual proof sets, modern commemoratives or ASE Proofs. I have said it a million times as long as I know I did not overpay I'm happy regardless of what I paid. Can I afford a $200 coin? Yes, if I save and work towards it. Would I be able to pay that at a coin shop or coin show, not on the spur of the moment no. So, is this as big of a deal as it all seems to me? Coin Collecting was supposed to be fun ad I'm confused  and frustrated!!  Please Help!?!? Thanks, Rich
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1179 Posts |
Coin collecting is fun. Everyone goes at it a different way. Some track their coins to the penny paid, others just hoard and dont care lol. I think you are over thinking things, there is no "one" way to collect and collect right. Just do what you do and dont worry about it so much. Last thing we want is you to be frustrated over the process.
I am definitely compulsive, sometimes obsessive lol. I keep record of every coin I buy, price I bought it for, I grade it and move on. Is it necessary, probably not, but I am that way with everything else in life.
If your inventory becomes too much to handle and keep track of, try to slim it down some or something.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I keep track of what I pay for everything but the main reason is because I also sell. If you have a small budget and collect mainly moderns, I don't think it is that big of a deal to keep track but you may look back in 20 years and wonder what the rate of return on your collection really is. I started out by just jotting down a short description and price in a notebook but I am going to Excel spreadsheets with everything now and the next step is to create a digital photo archive.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3076 Posts |
I'm pretty new here, and I don't keep tract of what I paid, I think its more like, when I buy something I am trying to know that the value is there,price paid is what its worth. the one major thing I have come to know is the that there is quite a difference in the grading....even between top level grading companies..with this in mind one man's MS65 will differ from another's MS65.... I like to think I am getting a fair deal when we buy something.....so I get what I paid if I let it go.....but in the end its more like we spent our time( which always cost's money) enjoying the things we like to do.....In the end, what anything is worth, is always what you can get out of it, when you decide to let it go.......today more or less?
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Moderator
 Australia
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I've got 9199 coins in my collection right now, which I've been acquiring since I was a YN in the early 1980's. But unless I happened to keep it in the 2x2 I bought it in which still had the price paid written on it, Apart from a brief, aborted effort to keep records in 1990 (it was way too much like "work") I have no idea what I paid for any of the coins I bought before 1997; it was only when I started using a coin database program that had a slot for it that I began to enter price paid for every single coin I obtained.
So for most of the first 3000 coins in my collection I have no data. Most of these coins are Australian mint sets, predecimal coins and world coins and notes. Most of them weren't expensive; some were even given to me by family and friends. But I wasn't into record-keeping back then, so I've got no way of knowing for sure. I can only assume that most of the more expensive coins were still in the 2x2s I bought them in.
So in my database, I've just left the "date purchased" and "price paid" fields blank when I don't know them for these older coins. It doesn't really bother me. In effect, I treat them all as "gifts" to me from my former, non-record-keeping self.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
83 Posts |
I attempted to try to make a spreadsheet and about went nuts doing it. I have come to the conclusion that if my coin collection was stolen my insurance would never cough up any real amount to cover actual worth...and I would be devestated and not collect anymore at my age...and then I get depressed thinking about that and I begin thinking about going to the Islands and lying in the sun, drink in hand...sigh, I spent three weeks just trying to put my Lincolns onto the spreadsheet...too much work. If I were just starting out collecting, I would do it while my collection was small enough to keep up with.
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Moderator
 Australia
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Quote: ...If I were just starting out collecting, I would do it while my collection was small enough to keep up with. Absolutely. To any relatively new collector out there wondering if starting a database is worth it, given that their collection is so small, I'd say "Yes!". Start it right now - because it's not going to get any easier. If I were to try to enter my 9199 coins into a database now, from scratch, I doubt I'd even bother starting. The task would be mammoth - it would take me years. I had to switch databases some years ago when my old one refused to work on my then-new Windows XP computer. I managed to find a database that read it in almost perfectly, but it still took three years to go through the new database and get all the coins exported across properly. And, since I still haven't got around to doing the same for the token and medal collection parts of the database, the job technically still isn't complete.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
116 Posts |
Date, Mint Mark, Variety Notes, Qty and Grade is all you really need. If your going to file an insurance claim you will want "replacement value" and you will want that to be current, not something you entered 5 years ago. And you need to get with your insurance company to let them know they are insuring a coin collection, so they can charge you for that. If you have coins with really high dollar value, a picture might help you justify your claim. Usually while your in court paying a lawyer $200 an hour to collect $1,000 for your coin. But then, if you have 1,000 coins are you going to create 2,000 photos, catalog them and add/delete photos? And in SAP's post above that would be over 18,000 photos.
If you got some really good deals, you sure wouldn't want to give an insurance company what you paid. Maybe you want to turn your hobby into an investment firm with profit and loss statements. If so, your going to need composition and precious metal content, along with what you paid and value and spot metal value - plus if your paying special insurance for your collection or for a safe deposit box, have to show that as a loss. Not to mention your time for 300 days a year to keep up with this. And value is just a proposed number anyway. Take your value book/source to the next coin show for a test.
Anyway enough, I use the KISS principle. My main purpose for tracking my HOBBY is to be able to print out a list of what I need to purchase to complete a set or album.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1599 Posts |
I really only seriously started collecting about a year ago. I learned quickly that if I was going to do this, I needed to keep up with my purchasess, money spent, grade, etc. I purchased CoinManage and started where I was. Everything I had purchased or obtained prior to that did not have prices, etc. I am trying to catch up with those coins, but it is very difficult (I am trying to learn about grading and also trying to read some of my scribbling on the 2x2's on the older coins); I probably will never catch up. My point is-get a software program or develop a spreadsheet to keep up with your purchases, costs, grades, etc. DON'T WAIT. It gets harder every day that goes by to get caught up.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
It's really up to the individual just how much documentation you like keeping up with. For me it's way to late to try for excessive records of coins. I started collecting over 60 years ago. I have virtually thousands and thousands of those things. Over 3,000 Mercury dimes alone would drive me nuts attempting to record how much and/or where of anything. Used to have 2,650 Steel Cents, 1943 ones, but just gave 500 to a YN. Imagine yourself someday if you continue collecting and have thousands of coins and do keep track of them all. Would that be a massive amount of information. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1418 Posts |
I don't keep track track of what I paid for. I don't, and never intend to sell.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Quote:
I really only seriously started collecting about a year ago. I learned quickly that if I was going to do this, I needed to keep up with my purchasess, money spent, grade, etc. I probably will never catch up. My point is-get a software program or develop a spreadsheet to keep up with your purchases, costs, grades, etc. DON'T WAIT. It gets harder every day that goes by to get caught up.
You should really sit down and say to yourself, SELF, why? What is the purpose of keeping track of each coin's original price, latest price, grade, where you got it, when you got it, the color of the dealer's shoes, etc. If you end up with thousands of coins and you have all that stuff documented, you will have more information than most people have for their entire household items. AND the main thing is SO WHAT? What good is it all? If something should happen to you, your relatives will just place all that STUFF in that little container under your desk, if you have one that is.
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Moderator
 United States
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Carl makes a good point. You need to ask yourself why you want to keep all of this information.
Some people enjoy data. If you are one of those people that loves to sift through it and reminisce, then do not let anyone here stop you from doing it.
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