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Need Some Help With I.d. And History Of Some Wolrd Coins

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 Posted 06/10/2006  12:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add empfan1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My Grandfather left me some coins a while ago . Mixed in was some foreign coins. I know what some of them are but nothing else (history, mintage, etc). I was wandering if one of the members here could possibly help with a little info .
I'll have to apologize for the quality of the photo's. My Sony camera's not very good at close up's.

Mixed, Obverse I know the country's but nothing else and I don't know why there's a hole in the South African one:
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and the reverse:
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Don't have a clue about these,
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And the last ones I know are German and I can see what looks like a mintmark at the top of the wheat stocks. One's an "F" ( I'm guessing Frankfurt) and the other two have a "D".

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This one I got from my wife a couple weeks ago. I know it's a Liberia coin that was made in 2000, but I can't find anything about it.

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and again, sorry for the "fuzzy" pics. Thanks in advance .


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 Posted 06/10/2006  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would suggest that you buy the Black Book of World Coins. I believe that you'll find most of these coins in there with photos and values. I found the Black Book for about $8 at Barnes and Noble. There are larger more expensive publications, but this one should suffice for your needs. If there are still unknown coins to you then this forum is definitely the place to find the answers. The research is fun too! Also, it would appear that your Grandfather served in WWII by some of the coins that you are showing here.
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 Posted 06/11/2006  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add empfan1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I'll take a look over at Borders ( I have 30% discount I need to use). Yes Grandpa was in the Pacific in WWII, The Liberation of the Philippines. I also got his ribbons, wrist watch (that he worn while serving) and more.
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 Posted 06/11/2006  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your first coin is holed so the coin looses value but was probably work as a neceless by some beautiful girl. It's a 1942 South African Penny. Mintage (14,428,000). Without the hole would be worth about a quarter in fine condition.
The next two coins are Hong Kong 10 cent pieces. 1949 (35,000,000) and 1950 (20,000,000) again worth about 25c each in fine.
The final coin in this photo is the 1904 French 25 centemes (16,000,000) it's made of nickel and worth 25c in Fine.

The next photo has Japanese coins. The first is 50 yen made between 1955 and 1958.Worth about 75c to $1 in very fine condition. The next two are 10 yen coins followed by three 1 yen coins. These designs are still used in circulation today.

Three German coins 1, 2 & 10 Pfennig.
1pf is 1950D mintage 772,592,000
2pf is 1962D mintage 21,297,000
10 pf is 1949F mintage 120,932,000
none have any high value
By the way F is the mintmark for Stuttgart
and D is the mintmark for Munich
Go figure, lol.

Last is the $20 commemerative coin Liberia year 2000
Seems they made a lot of different designs of $20 coin that year...at least 15, including Abraham Lincoln, Astronauts, concord in flight, and olympic series, battle of the Alamo.
All 15 have an estimated mintage of (20,000) and are .999 silver .6437 ounce proofs in Uncirculated condition are worth $25. The difference with your coin is that it would be number 16 and not listed in my reference book. It is part of the "American History" series. weight in grams is 20.17gm size 40.3 mm
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 Posted 06/11/2006  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, toast, you didn't leave me much to work out with these ones... [:p]

Just to add: Japanese coins are dated according to the year of the emperor's reign.
- the 50 yen is year 31 (1956 AD). It's made of nickel, if you're curious.
- the 10 yen are years 27 (1952) and 29 (1954); they're slightly different to the current 10 yen in that they have reeded edges.
- the 1 yen: the first two are from from year 31 (1956), the other from year 30 (1955). It's actually quite hard to get these in good condition this old, especially year 30 (the first year of issue).

The German (Federal Republic) mintmarks are:
A = Berlin (post-1990 only)
D = Munich
F = Stuttgart
G = Karlsruhe
J = Hamburg

The "missing letters" (B, C, etc.) are for mints which used to operate in Germany's past, which have since shut down.
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 Posted 06/11/2006  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bob_yan_cn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I must say, toast and sap are our experts on world coins.

I must be the first to answer questions next time, otherwise I will have nothing to add. :-)
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Yes, Toast, Sap and others (like bob yan can) are able to quote chapter and verse for World Coins. Me? I always have to look them up or ask on the CCF! I always enjoy the research but, these folks are a plethora of information! I keep my little Black Book handy because I'm always finding something unique, different or "Worldly" in the nooks and crannies of my Mom and Dad's belongings. Dad is always pulling out something and says "here I found this for you" and away I go doing my little research.

Thanks guys for answering his question so well (as usual)!
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 Posted 06/11/2006  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add empfan1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone .
I'm still going to do as dsking recommended and get the Black book of World Coins just incase I'm able to get more foreign coins. (You never know). This might be a stupid question, but does it cover Canadian coins as well?

Toast and Sap- WOW, very cool thanks again. Hope you don't mind but I'm going to copy/paste your responses for reference until I get my own book.

With the Liberia coin, if it is coin 16 of a 15 coin set should I have it checked? Or is there a chance that it belongs to a different series that was issued later and maybe skipped over in the reference books?

Stuttgart and Munich ?.Okay. I assumed (and yes I know I shouldn't) that the mintmark system was the same worldwide and I also assumed (yep..there I go doing that again) that the minting of coins and currency was, by now a semi-standard industry. I'm guessing not (that was pretty narrow-minded of me to think this). I've got a lot to learn about foreign coins, this might be kinda fun .
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Some Canadian and Great Britain coins are included - yes.
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Re: the Liberia coin: toast, I count 35 recorded $20 proof coins for Liberia dated 2000 in my Krause catalogue, and this one isn't one of them.

In 2000, Liberia was in the middle of a civil war. I suspect what's happened here is that several mint corporations in America (and possibly elsewhere) siezed the moment by issuing a profusion of "coins" for which there was no official authorization, as the folks back in Liberia had more to worry about than unofficially issued coinage. I notice that several of the coins in Krause have a little comment: "Note: the American Mint is not an actual mint".

No doubt some (many?) of these coins may be deemed "unofficial" at some future date, and shuffled off to the "Unusual World Coins" catalogue.
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You should buy the Krause catalogues.You can buy them here; https://www.amazon.com .The postage is really cheap from Germany.

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Very interesting. The Japanese coins are slightly more valuable than you think as they rarely aren't in that grade. You can still find them circulating except for the 50 yen, which is now a centre-holed coin, but rarely do you come across something that is before 1960s, let alone early 70s.
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