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What is the history behind that foreign Ike? According to Unofficial Coins of the World by Richard D Kenney, this piece (12.5 g) and the corresponding "5 Europinos" (25 g, mintage 300) were : Quote:
Designed by Prof. Hanisch-Consee of Austria and struck by the Hamburg Mint to commemorate the Council of Europe movement which originated at Strasbourg. Of the 2 1/2 Europinos pictured here, Kenney further says : Quote:
10 300 struck, 500 melted. Also called the Eisenhower half dollar, this piece bears the portrait of Eisenhower while still Commander of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and before he entered the Presidential campaign. It is reported that one piece was struck in gold for presentation to General Eisehower. I wonder if it is in the possession of the Eisenhower Presidential Library. |
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Here is an example that's similar to mine for sale on e-bay.I think mine is better and I sent it off to PCGS today.They said an estimate of 6 weeks before I know how it grades out.  Here is my coin below.   It seems that some Eisenhower silver dollar dates are rare in high-grade mint state. I'm crossing my fingers and I can't wait to see the results six weeks. Seems like a long time to wait for results,I think it's gonna be a little longer than six weeks. have you ever waited to get a Coin back that you had slabbed? Oh I hope I get lucky.. |
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Good luck FlyingTiger! I hope that the results are good.
Errers and Varietys.
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My Bicentennial Silver Proof Ike.  |
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Here is my coin below. Quote:
My Bicentennial Silver Proof Ike. Nice examples!  Quote:
I think mine is better and I sent it off to PCGS today. Good luck!  |
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I think mine is better and I sent it off to PCGS today. Here's hoping! But they do keep track of the money grade slabs they hand out. The less they hand out, the more the money grade slabs already issued go up in price for people looking to make a top registry set. The more those elevate in price, the more people take a gamble and pay the companies while hoping to get that money grade on their own slab. It's a business. They go where money strategies lead them. And the above is also likely part of why they will not use anything verifiable to grade coins. With modern AI and tech, they could easily scan and give one single, repeatable grade (like they used to in the late 90s!) to every coin. I personally would love to see you share a posy post a picture of an MS69 when it comes back  I also have to wonder if the above is why they never give an Ike a perfect grade? it keeps people wishing/gambling/trying. |
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MS67 circulation-strike coins in general are really tough to get. MS68 is almost impossible, and MS69? You practically have to bribe the grading company to get one of your circulation-strike coins with that grade.
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Here's what gives me hope from the example for sale on ebay that's the MS 67. here are a few flaws and they still gave it a 67.  $2400 and chatter on the face,a cut on the neck in two places.  Also the scratches by the letter "I" that has my hopes up.Could mine come in at a MS-68 ohhh I don't know but this whole process is kinda fun. |
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Flyingtiger- Post some better pics to get an idea of grade.
Personally I wouldn't have sent this, it won't get a 67, this I know.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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For comparison, my 1978-D is MS-66. You can find it in the link in my signature. You can look up the TrueView images for it as well.
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Quote:Here's what gives me hope from the example for sale on ebay that's the MS 67. here are a few flaws and they still gave it a 67. The more you examone slabbed coins closely, the more you will find things like this. There is no scientific standard used so a scientific analysis based on other slabbed coins is also very subjective. Any slabbed coin broken out and sent in again, even to the same company, is not guaranteed the same grade will be given to it again. See the essay in my signature which also includes how the companies abandoned what they called a more accurate system in the late 90s. Back when the companies were advertising their new computerized grading systems they once developed, the companies called using human graders an inferior system containing human error. The new system was said to give one true grade to each coin. But...companies soon found people knew they would not get a better grade if they payed for re-slabbing. This is possibly why the companies went back to what they called the inferior system. Businesses go where the profits lead. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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One word explains everything about grading:
Fallible
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Edited by NumismaticsFTW
07/13/2023 3:41 pm
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Hence why the expression "Buy the coin, not the slab" exists.
If grades were infallible this expression would not be needed.
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  1974-S Brilliant Uncirculated Eisenhower Silver Dollar |
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