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in my opinion, NO, I dont even think thats a real design
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ok thanks a lot
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 Posted 04/06/2010  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I dont even think thats a real design

Must be a pretty big conspiracy then.
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 Posted 04/06/2010  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, yes they are and worth 20,000 each
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 Posted 04/06/2010  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might well be correct Iaffa123 ..... but I would appreciate you defending your quick reply with some specific points about what you see in these photos that justify your opinion.

I'm getting on my soapbox here for just a moment .... bear with me ...

I have noticed (as I'm sure others have as well) that you are quick to throw out a short-worded 'opinion' to many posts that most likely sounds like the experienced wisdom of a veteran to the newbies who are asking serious questions.

Short answers are great if they are justified ..... but I am a little bit concerned that every time I see your name I cringe in hopes that no bad info is presented to the community as 'fact'.

My sincere advise to you .... express your views as 'opinions' or else give some very specific reasons why the coins are as you see them.

OK .... Soapbox Mode Off.

For koinguy ..... I have no idea about this series .... hopefully the experts will weigh in shortly with a valued opinion.

David

Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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Lafaa, Why do you feel the need to constantly spew garbage? If you don't know, keep your mouth shut.
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I dont know about all the "drama" but... I just am now scared to buy off ebay.. because I have been reading about fake coins.. and I am a new collector.. so any advise on buying when your new anyone?
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Looking at the surfaces of both coins I see what looks like signs of casting, the little spots could be casting bubbles. Also the rims look a little to wide to me and the metal doesn't look silver, though that could be the picture. This series is widely counterfeiter in China. IMO they are counterfeit.
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what I did is that I learned from my mistakes, trusted some good sellers, and started small
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Staying away from all that...
My opinion would be that they are not real.
They have a granular look to them, as well as the darkness around the devices is typical of the copies.
I have one that looks identical that is a no-doubt copy (and bought as such for education purposes)
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thanks guys lol
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Opinion here. Trade dollars are something you really should purchase in person from a trusted source as they are highly counterfeited. Sure, there are honest sellers out there on the net too, but why take the chance? Of course, if someone is offering a 7-14 day return policy, and you'd have time to get the coin checked out, then maybe.

Good luck.
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Not a chance.
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The coins in question do not look real to me. My suggestion if you are interested in this series (or any other for that matter) do your homework on the series, if any issues are often counterfeited, added Mint Marks, ect. before laying down any cash. As for Trade dollars I would suggest only buying certified examples (PCGS, NGC, ANACS) from a reputable dealer unless you are very comfortable grading and determining if the coin is genuine or not before buying any raw coins, esp. off of ebay or any other online site.
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