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Pillar of the Community
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Doesn't ring any counterfeiting alarms. Very nice pair!
However, I think I see some scratching/bad polishing in the fields on the reverse of the second coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
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First off ... watch out, guys on here will tear you up for buying Trade dollars that are not slabbed ... Other than that. The first thing you check on these are the weight. Make sure they are not light. Most of the fakes you can tell as soon as you pick them up. Bad casting show pretty easily also. To me these look real, but there are some very good fakes out there. As far as what others will say about there being a lot of fake Trade dollars is true. If the weight is correct and it does not have a cast look, you can eliminate most of the fakes. If you are not sure take the coins to a experience dealer and have them checked out. |
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Sorry I should have asked if you have experience in buying these first. Maybe you were just asking how some new purchases look. If that is the case. I do like how this era coins look in mid grade coins. I wish I have a set of Trade dollars that all have this same look. |
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Well, I must admit, I bought an unslabbed one recently. I posted a picture in the forum and most responders thought it looked conterfeit. I have since sent it to ANACS for grading. It should be back in a couple of weeks. I hope it is not, but if it is, I will return it to the coin shop that I bought it from. So, I am probably not a good one to give an opinion on a Trade dollar. |
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I have had some experience buying these, but do not consider myself an expert. I was 99% sure these were the real deal when buying them. The weights are 416-418 and 418-420 grains (my scale must skip odd numbers on this function as it was not settling on either one). Looking on the back seeing they should be 420 grains has me confident about them.
I do agree the second one has been cleaned.
I did expect a couple people to fire from the hip and say they were fake (at least one person in particular).
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Is the denticle wear on the first one (1877) normal? It seems like the spacing is not so uniform on both the observe and reverse.
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Rest in Peace
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IT'S FAKE!! sorry, I couldn't resist.  They look fine to me, but it never hurts to get them double checked. Great lookin gals there! |
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Oh Johnny Countdown! You too funny!  |
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My opinion is that both are genuine, the 1877 looks like a F-15, the 1878 about VF-25 imo; I would also check the edge reeding carefully; on forgeries it is almost always irregular.
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I like my chopped! I feel it add more characteristic, like it been through journeys and serve its purpose. My opinion.   |
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That's really cool Mac. What a rich sense of history those marks add.
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Although I really enjoy the look of an uncirculated coin, I really love the look of Trade dollars with chop marks. That is a really cool example. Thanks for posting that! Steve |
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Thanks Pinenut and Whytlash. I wanted to buy some more of these, but its getting hard to find genuine Trade dollar Chopped. Sorry oimcoins for hi-jacking your spot! Edited by macmercury
04/16/2010 11:15 am
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Quote:I don't think TPG services grade chopped coins. They do grade them, and they put "Chop Mark" or something to that effect on the holder. There are even some that have received MS grades. Edited by steve199
04/16/2010 11:10 am
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Your Trade dollars ahould weigh 27.22 grams (420 grains). You need to weigh it on a very accurate scale. It is so hard to tell if they are real from a photo. Do they have the proper "ring" sound if you tap the edge? Having seen Trade dollar fakes that fooled seasoned professionals, including the TPGs, I am always very leary of these coins. The current wave of fakes coming over from China are full weight, correct silver content and die struck. PCGS, NGC and ANACS all have the diagnostic tools needed to determine ifthe coin is real. Worth the $$ to submit the coins. |
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Posted 04/14/2010 5:43 pm
