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2004-D Wisconsin Extra Leaf Quarter Error Question

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Does anyone have any info on these errors? I was wondering if any have been found in Mint sets? Is this error due to a die crack?

I notice the US Mint still has the 1st day coin cover for sale. Could one be found in that set?

Thanks,
Tim
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no one really knows what caused them, I have heard stuff from die clashing to someone at the mint making a joke so there is no real explanation except the mint recognizes it happened at the mint
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Your chances of getting one on a first day cover would be about one in a trillion as I am sure they have more than been looked at by now. Personally I think the dies were damaged intentionally by a mint employee as they are really small. I guess a screwdriver could accidently cause some damage but these extra leaf varieties look pretty darn good from all the photos I have seen so you will have to be the judge on that one.
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These are not die breaks but are actually additional marks on the dies. There are a few who believe they are the random result of damage but most people who look at them think they were intentionally carved by someone. A mint investigation did not prove the cause one way or the other. Both these extra leaf coins were made on the same press at the same time and they were released together in a few locations in the south west. (primarily Tucson).

There is no real chance that you'll find them from any other source but there is a very small chance that there are more in storage which will be released in the future.
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I have to say, there is no way that the high leaf and low leaf could have been made at the same time with the same dies
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That is pretty impossible if you think of that.

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Hi Bryan

simply stated .

The fact the coins were found in the same location at the same time, says that they were produced at the same time and from the same presses.

Rick

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quote:
Originally posted by Metalman

Hi Bryan

simply stated .

The fact the coins were found in the same location at the same time, says that they were produced at the same time and from the same presses.

Rick



Just as you have said, the two varieties are the result of the use of two sequential, damaged dies on the same press. That is the only way top explain how they showed up in the same place at the same time. Whether the "damage" is deliberate or accidental is another matter altogether.
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Most mint presses are horizontal Shuyler presses with eight dies or four complete sets of dies. These are very high speed presses. The fact that they are only found together is indicative of having been made on the same press.
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Is there a site where one can see a piture of this coin?
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Thanks,Bryan.I noticed on his website he had planchet clipped coins.I passed a Roosevelt dime up
because it was marked $15.00.I didn't know if it was a real error,but I can see now,that I should have bought it.Do you think $15.00 is too much?
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