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I recently acquired the following six coins.   Suppose coins are numbered from 1 to 6 starting from top left to bottom right in natural order. I have the following questions: (a) The coin [1] is the coins of Claudius. It seems to be somewhat corroded. Why is that? Can the corrosion spread? (b) Can you identify the coins. I know [1] is Claudius, [2] is Phillip and is minted in Dacia,  is Diocletianus, [4] is minted in Viminatium. (c) I am especially interested in info on the coin [6]. It is quite different form the roman coins I have seen so far. (d) What is the approximate value of these six coins? Thanks for the answers in advance. |
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Nice looking lot!
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Very nice bunch of coins hidden - Would happily add most if not all to my collection!
Dont worry too much about the corrosion on your Claudius coin - I dont think its Bronze disease and it should be stable and not get any worse. As long as the coin does not have flakey light green deposits that can be rubbed off by your fingers then it should be fine - nothing will spread to your other coins.
For more info on Bronze disease search the forums - it may help you to confirm the coin is OK or if you have a problem.
The 6th coin is an Alexandria tetradrachm (the eagle on the reverse is common to these). I would need to see a better picture of the Emperor to 100% ID it.
I'm most interested in the 5th coin - I cant see much in the small pic but it reminds me of Macrianus Minor. A larger picture could confirm this.
As far as price goes, the Dioclection is worth about £10-20GBP and if the 5th can be confirmed as a Macrianus then it could be worth about £50-75GBP. As far as the rest are concerned I'm not 100% sure so will leave them for others to value.
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05/17/2010 8:02 pm
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Very nice group of coins, as bobbyhelmet pointed out the green color on coin #1 isn't corrosion but It's a nice green patina. From what I can make out from the pictures, coin #5 looks like a Denarius of Severus Alexander and #6 is all so Severus Alexander from Alexandria.
As to value, all the coins appear to be in very nice condition. I would value the lot at $225.
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05/17/2010 10:42 pm
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2 and 4 are both from Viminacium, I believe. They have the same reverse. I think #5 is an Elagabalus coin, like this one on Wildwinds. Closer pics of #5 and #6 will help confirm their ID. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Thank you for the answers and compliments on the coins.
Unfortunately, I cannot make a better quality image of the coins. My camera is obviously not so good.
As for the coin [5] it is neither Macrianus Minor, nor Severus Alexander nor Elagabalus. I managet to read "IMP ANTONINVS AVG" so it is probably Antoninus Pius. The face looks young and it has does not have a crown but the other thing I do not know the name in English for.
As for the coin [6] I managed to read "_______AVNIOCCER". Does that confirm it is Severus Alexander?
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I managed to read "IMP ANTONINVS AVG" so it is probably Antoninus Pius. The face looks young and it has does not have a crown but the other thing I do not know the name in English for. Remember 'ANTONINVS' was on the coins of many people and not just Antoninus Pius. Commodus, Marcus Aurelius, Uranius, Caracalla, Elagabalus and Macrinus all had it on some or all of their coins too. I think I agree with SAP that its the Egalabalus he posted a link too with him wearing a 'radiate' crown. If it is its worth about £30GPB. It certainly cant be a Macrianus with 'ANTONINVS' on it even though the styles are very similar. As for #6 I cant find anything with 'AVNIOCCER' on it? |
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I did not know that several emperors used the same name written on their coins. Anyway, he does not have any kind of crown. He has the same thing Diocletian on his head on the coin . Having had a detailed look, I too now agree with Sap. I believe this is the coin: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sear...tml#RIC_0019As for the [6] is is certainly Severus Alexander? Also, what Philip is on coin [2]? First or second? I still do not know who is on coin [4]. |
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The item on the head is called a 'laureate' or laurel wreath in English - not sure where the word originates from though. 'Laureate' looks like a French word that has been adopted into the English language. Its originally from the Greek word 'Laurus'.
I'll have a look at the other coins a bit later when I get some time.
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Very nice coins. I especially like the portrait on Claudius.
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#2: since they ruled and issued coins at the same time and had similar titles, Philip I and Philip II are distinguished by portrait: beardless coins are for Philip II. #4: I think I can read "LVSIAN" above the emperor's head; the only ruler with these letters as part of his name is Volusian. See here for a similar coin; reverse legend is IMP CAE C VIB VOLVSIANO AVG. #6: It's a tetradrachm from Alexandria, Egypt. These coins have late Greek script on them, not Latin. the final letter in your "AVNIOCCER" is a B, not an R; CEB is Greek shorthand for Sebastos, the equivalent of Augustus (and therefore is the "Greek equivalent of AVG"). I think it's much later than Severus Alexander, but I'm not getting any match for "AVNIOC". Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Again I think SAP is correct about #4  As far as #6 goes I've been trying slight variations on the 'AVNIOCCEB' and found the following: Aurelian: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/bigp...elian/i.htmlThe reverse is very close with the 'L' and the 'B' but the bust is perhaps not 100%? This would be based on the coin reading 'AIANOCCEB' rather than 'AVNIOCCEB' this is possible as on a few coins I've looked at the 'N' has been poorly stamped looking more like 'II'. This could lead to the 1st 'I' in the 'N' being read along with the proceeding 'A' as an 'N' leaving the 2nd 'I' in the 'N' to be read as an 'I' giving 'NIOCCEB'. Hope that makes sense! - here is a picture of a poorly stamped Alexandria Aurelian that might make it clearer: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/bigp...elian/i.htmlSee how the 'AIANOCCEB' could be read quite easily as 'AI/V NIOCCEB' Edited by bobbyhelmet
05/19/2010 1:07 pm
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Well, the portrait of Aurelian does look similar to the portrait on the coin #6.
It seems it is the same ruler.
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I finally got a better camera so here is a more detailed picture of coin [6].   |
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I read it as "...LAVDIOC CEB" with the "D" a triangle-shaped Greek letter delta, and the "L" the inverted-V-shaped letter lambda. That would be Claudius II. Reverse inscription L-B, which means "Year 2" or 269 AD. This Wildwinds example dates from Year 3. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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